How to keep the client itself is not at a loss?

In the past year started to do one project for rating and summary on opforce, so I agreed to a small amount (550 bucks) for Android app. In fact, the work was worth much more, but again, done for the rating. Net time spent about 2 months ( 300 hours) - I would have done much faster, because at the time the experience was less. Finished the project after a year because the client was slow and did a slow API.
In the end, I'm a little bit on the weekends is all sawed. Now the client wants support, and Fisk possible bugs. While hourly he did not agree (greedy Hindu). Suggested $ 200 - $ 300 for six months or for corrections of small bugs and improvements small features. C on the one hand, I understand that money is funny, but as they say the extra penny... While I have a deal where SN is fine with me. And on the other support an existing application written by me not very difficult ( considering the small improvements and small bugs). So I don't know to agree to support or not. I'm afraid that agreeing will fell a lot of new functionality was not a negotiated previously, and with the Indians to work as it is not very good (although not the worst variant). Who thinks that? Have you faced any such problems? And another question, if after the release of the app you have bugs, you have them for free fixie? Or for a fee? PS before the release was the tester (hired by client) which tests prilozhu was bugs, but I fixed them.
June 27th 19 at 15:21
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June 27th 19 at 15:23
Get out from Hindu or offer their normal conditions.
Better to make a new project than for a penny to get bogged down on the current.
June 27th 19 at 15:25
The other, even Indians don't work for 1.8 dollars per hour, seriously. $2000-3000 for six months support — we can agree.
June 27th 19 at 15:27
Agree, with the condition:

  1. pay it forward, 100%
  2. a period of exactly six months – the date of the last day;
  3. you will find the time spent on support. Transparent, a timer as upwork. If it exceeds 80 hours you stop working to obtain another $100, which will cover an additional 20 hours of work (figures accurately calculate)
  4. The extra time paid is just an additional watch. Once the six months expire, the whole work is terminated prior to the contract renewal.


Ie actually bring the contract to the hourly pay, while retaining the external form of the proposal of the Indian.
Thank you for your clear answer! Can then offer hourly with trekdom from Apwork? About 8-10 bucks to ice cream enough)) But then it will be 80 hours, and hourly agree on more favorable terms. But it will be hard to persuade on an hourly rate so...

And another question, we have every two weeks a little skype meetings where we discuss what is new, about for 40 minutes-hour. You like that such meetings are discussed in advance? This is also the time spent...

Forgot to say right now, I 100% work success, and even a couple of days was Top-rated but is not kept as clean avarkom doing in your spare time in wichah - kallie72 commented on June 27th 19 at 15:30
: why offer hourly? Indian does not want. And with prepaid and a limit on the time you definitely will not be the loser. Calls – to consider, of course. It's your time, your life. With other clients, feel free to call the high bet. Let refuse. But most agree, and you will be considered a valuable professional. - Lorena commented on June 27th 19 at 15:33
this is certainly correct, but only a Hindu is likely to prove harmful type and after these conditions immediately and shit in public opinion to underestimate the assessment and rating respectively, but. - ryann92 commented on June 27th 19 at 15:36
tremble and bend under unfavorable conditions or boldly to defend their interests – the choice is always there. - Lorena commented on June 27th 19 at 15:39
: Yes just to disagree, i.e. not to get involved politely referred to another employment, it is likely it will be more profitable in the long term, given the announced "introductory data". - ryann92 commented on June 27th 19 at 15:42
June 27th 19 at 15:29
Way if the client is not willing to pay, restates and develop further
June 27th 19 at 15:31
on bezrybe and plankton - fish.
Why would you give up this Indian ? When you started to work together, he didn't know you. Now he knows, and apparently very happy (not only price).
And now look what's the deal:
here you'll be working at this Indian 2 hours a day for six months = 240ч.
Now think if you spent that time searching for a normal customer ? well, unless you never found it? Yes, found it, and profit would be more and work less.

The problem of all who receive little (require), is that there is no free time to improve their skills and get more. But it is necessary to send one who pays little, as there is time and motivation to work on yourself.
June 27th 19 at 15:33
The only normal option to resolve the situation in their favor:
Dear sir, I like to work with you, let's finish the current project, leave me a review and I will leave you..
After that we can talk about further cooperation..

And here, note the most important moment diagrams: as soon as it happens, you disappear from his radar, locked in a room with a large blackboard on which writing with chalk is a thousand times the following words:

I will never work with the Indians
I will never work with the Indians
I will never work with the Indians
I will never work with the Indians

After that you can leave the room and seek a new order on the Upwork. Europe, the Netherlands, Australia, USA, great guys. Work with them and enjoy life. Never work with Indians, Pakistanis and other third world. It's not worth it.
June 27th 19 at 15:35
With Hindus it is possible to work normally only if they left India and Pakistan in a decent country.
Forget it and find a new project.
To leave politely offer him the real price for the support. Multiply by two what you get per hour usually work. And say that only hourly fees or fixed according to the features of your preliminary assessment and fixing requirements.
If he does not agree, say that, unfortunately, forced to engage in other more profitable projects.
June 27th 19 at 15:37
"I don't like the client, but I want to keep it, although having a different constant payment"
I was so obvious.

I would suggest several times more expensive - as much as would suit me.
Otherwise, good - bye, not sorry.
June 27th 19 at 15:39
the answer is unequivocal - to disagree and not trade their skills for kopecki, it is better spend time on more worthy projects. Or agree, but 50% percent stake in the project is if the project itself is very interesting and you are sure that will bring him to the high net profit...)
June 27th 19 at 15:41
With the Indians to work. Even those who moved to other countries. Indian in new York will throw no less harshly than the Hindu in new Delhi. I speak from experience. If you have the opportunity to throw, then throw necessarily. And in any case they will make the entire brain in the process.

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