Overage junior — truth or fiction?

Hello! My name is Sergey and I'm a programmer.

Back in the 90's, I spent days in the classroom, mocking the old BK-Chegutu. Then went to a ZX-Spectrum, programming information became available, made with other simple toys ...

Rather, according to employment records, I'm an engineer-designer. But actually from the IT and programming I am far away and would not leave. Administration of computers and networks, website design, hosting, configure, postal services and the cloud make utility C++, Perl script for parsing and replacement. Etc. etc. something for work, something as a hobby.

Six months ago, for the hell of it I sat down at Python and I covered. He lined with books and guides, killed a bunch of problems on HackerRank. Interesting, cool. When you find the solution and the code works - the buzz.

Recently celebrated 37 and realized that from the current work sick. Experts call it a midlife crisis. Probably, it is. Changing industry after 15 years of successful work was not a smart decision. On the other hand there is still plenty of time and want to spend it with pleasure.

I apologize for such a long introduction. That's actually a question to the distinguished audience:
1. QA tester - python, low entry threshold, the opportunity to scratch someone else's code and see how industry works from the inside. So?
2. Summary - I have absolutely nothing to write on it. All I could describe, put - are asked to evaluate, to criticize, to offer something.

Thank you!

July 2nd 19 at 17:34
7 answers
July 2nd 19 at 17:36
To start - create a repository at github (if not) where you can post Your projects on which You learned to the employer was able to assess the level of Your current knowledge.
And then think: what, where and for how much.
Without real knowledge, You are not going to be interested in how the human resource.
Do you want to study - either for yourself (best option) or paid courses.
by the way, and why github and not bitbucket? Why recommends you to get a portfolio out there, and not there? - Candida93 commented on July 2nd 19 at 17:39
because Google is looking for better than the rest. - Kyleigh_Hills commented on July 2nd 19 at 17:42
July 2nd 19 at 17:38
I'm 55 and I'm a programmer.

My business (from scratch) within the programming of specialty for 2-3 times.

You are Junior. Even in the new podshare areas of programming you become midlam. The Junior up to your speed of adaptation as the moon.

Of course, if you overall skilled programmer.
Thank you! - Candida93 commented on July 2nd 19 at 17:41
July 2nd 19 at 17:40
Age is not a hindrance, the desire is there, nothing more is needed. The main thing - not to give up.
July 2nd 19 at 17:42
1. Low-it is low, but it is still a separate specialization. You will have to spend a year or two to start with dignity in her to earn. And then again to relearn.
2. Do the same in Python by: admin something and parsing. It is very simple.
Or, if you want in web development, do not waste time in vain for anything and just grab django.
Thank you! And the more you can, on the second point? In the sense that the move to find a position for pythonista-parser with zero combat practice will not be easy. And it is not clear what is needed and demanded in the market. Apwork looked - nothing intelligible. Although the topic is really interesting to me.

But testers take curves and oblique (vacancies sea). If you get into a large company, it is possible to live to peep how the development process (Agile, TDD, Jira, etc.). And then we will see where to go, maybe even within the same company. Correct me plz if this is wrong reasoning.

About Django to know, but haven't touched really is (soul is not to the layout). And it is not quite clear his place in the market. Webvista, as I understand, a little better than the tester and worse than the backend. On frontend, Java reigns and pythonista here is sad, IMHO. Again, please correct if you misunderstand the scenario.

Thanks for the tips! - Candida93 commented on July 2nd 19 at 17:45
I spent six months on opforce "work" in pythonista parser. In all that time received less than $ 500. For me, this experience, because I had no experience of development. Why do you care?
In testing whether parsing or layout entry threshold low, in the sense that something sensible you will quickly learn to do. And what's the point? Real quick income this will bring.

I meant to do some parsing to resume. If Perl did, you can try on the Python. requests, lxml - these libah can quickly understand, to try something simple. Selenium Web Driver - also a simple thing, and in testing, and in parsing it is useful. And then still have to think about whether to spend a couple of weeks - month for it.

To go to the testers to look at development processes and add them to your summary, again sorry for the time. I would be better spent on getting relevant for their future profession experience. You're already pros, why do you need something else to watch from the inside. - Kyleigh_Hills commented on July 2nd 19 at 17:48
July 2nd 19 at 17:44
Well, what's stopping you to earn very much on your work, programming in my free time for the soul and ride a couple months a year around the world. Why abandon the current money
Mainly that 2-3 hours per day, with children on their shoulders, it is difficult to do something. The pace of progress to say the least not impressive. - Candida93 commented on July 2nd 19 at 17:47
: well, you grow had before, for children you have a wife, you write experienced in business, if you work, let others work for you - Kyleigh_Hills commented on July 2nd 19 at 17:50
"before" does not work, the conditions of the problem historically. I'm 15 years engineered building structures and "machines" (relatively) Now I want to go back to programming.
And about the "force" is simple and difficult at the same time. Need access to the people who delegate the task and the carrot (money). The rest is paperwork. It's not the for a man "not of industry." :) - esther54 commented on July 2nd 19 at 17:53
: I do not understand what you
for example you write are well versed in SEO, there are customers and money not to measure, who to delegate too a lot of people.
in email marketing, too much interesting there, but then I have not toiled, may Russian market is not so interesting but in the West, in bloom and smells, all the way from collecting email to cunning mailings and configure servers.
and most importantly if you are strong in management it is obvious that more money than driving people do not earn himself, thank God, the management of people in all fields equally, now just manage to order a very non-core to me people, in General, all more or less the same thing, the same morons and slackers. - esther54 commented on July 2nd 19 at 17:56
SEO is now a sad. Or more precisely, the market in Russia imploded so much that none of those opportunities that was 10 years ago. Small customers with market beating. Large pour Yandex and Google money, which naturally pulled up the stakes (and of course of course).
SEO now = buy, buy, buy, profit. Who has more money, and sneakers.
I say that mainly I mean the construction market. Until recently, he was the most lively (a lot of players of all sizes), but after the collapse everyone is busy in the main survival or running from creditors.
Well, I'm in the fat years not crossed the line of hobby/business that left me with no orders. Own fault :)

email marketing for the Western market is interesting, but:
1. my English until narashivanie, which seriously reduces the chances to take the order.
2. vtupuyu through Google advance - need budgets commensurate with the major players in this market.
3. apwork in this sense, haven't seriously touched. Mechanical Engineering tried, orders, consider what is not (5-20 a month). I'm very impressed.

Management, totally agree with You. - stephan_Dickinson commented on July 2nd 19 at 17:59
: SEO on the contrary I think was just better and richer budgets, I would not say to become less, well, the building decayed, and plastic Windows people put always or there phones also always buy. don't really understand how you can in terms of SEO to fill in Yandex and Google rates? this is not the context and SEO. SEO has become the opposite now not buy buy buy and sneakers, and analyze analyze voila here it is and you're wearing crocs, then the question more brains and analysis. well Chernoe SEO as always brings huge profits, as one of my friend was I the conference closed black SEOs, so many Bentleys in one place I've never seen.

5-20 zakazov per month and how many orders you can do? all these 5-20 ? few orders this is when you can do 100 orders and 5 or 20 and when you can for a month to do 1-3 , and in the month of 5-20 is considered crowded market orders 20 times. - esther54 commented on July 2nd 19 at 18:02
There is nothing to analyze. Pour money into channels policies leads, part converted to customers. Channels without exception are known - direct, steam forums, steam etc., drop the sphere, and a TV. To print advertising on toilet paper, but to no avail. The construction market is VERY conservative, impulse purchases don't happen here.

The ruble, the oil price and the consolidation/monopolization of the market raised the price tags for the promotion to orders. On the one hand direct in the past year, we entered the auction, on the other, demand fell, and rushed. Price tag-per-click in Yandex. direct now to 1000 comes. This means that if your conversion rate is 10%, every tenth customer will happily bring Yandex 10t.R. even without buying anything. Naturally in this case you need to keep the price below the competition, otherwise the conversion will fall and the lone client will have to meet with the words:
- "Hello, You owe us 100T.R. What do you wish?"
And average 20-30 okonschikov Tr Here so the advertising budget can not hide.

Another example is the advertising budget of one client increased from 10 Tr to 200T.R./months, naturally he flew off the market. Budgets amounting to millions of rubles incurred in agencies naturally small "promoters" flew off the market.

The auction mechanism https://yandex.ru/support/direct/impressions/vcg_a...

"Black SEO" on this background again is in bloom and smells of course, they work for a percentage of the CPA. But it's not my thing. Tainted she is. I'm not rich :D

About apwork:
I meant that ONLY comes mapwork 5-20 customers per month, including worksheets for students to offset (Yes, the Americans are also buying solutions to problems). And they throw all this motley fraternity, including non-core Hindus, who seem to not read anything stupid spam bots applications. To snatch at least one of these jobs I almost never failed. Several negotiations no ending and one happy American with an order for 10 bucks. In General, for the design activities is not a channel at all. - Eulalia22 commented on July 2nd 19 at 18:05
: you are confusing something with seo than others, what the fuck direct? just checked that direct and AdWords positions in the search is not affected. what the fuck TV. I told you to forget about building the market, if a bunch of other markets which are now in bloom and smell.

Well, you vidili the first 20 orders? GS you have 100% feedback and 5.0 ? - esther54 commented on July 2nd 19 at 18:08
: could not pass by your saying "to children you have a wife." Imagine, wives also want to develop in their professions and do their own things)) but that's offtopic) - Eulalia22 commented on July 2nd 19 at 18:11
: well, the wife does not work does what he wants, willing myself to yoga, wants to draw, wants to embroider a cross, the child is not always breast. - esther54 commented on July 2nd 19 at 18:14
July 2nd 19 at 17:46
What did Junior.
You just change the specialization.

If you're a good programmer - you will quickly pass the level of a Junior in a new field.
July 2nd 19 at 17:48
You can start working "for food" in adequate office, in which understand the value of good employees. And if you really adapt quickly everything must be

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