OctoberCMS — it Suits you as a basis for web-Studio?

Interested in the opinions of those who have chosen this CMS as the basis for a project Studio (upd1: to replace the Joomla and WP, i.e. projects which are many). What are the rakes and pitfalls. I.e. now for example in our Studio for the basis of Joomla, of Course, use other CMS, depending on the task, but the bulk of tasks it sites and business portals. Joomla certainly cope with this task, but really it's all "ugly" in terms of development, maintenance and scaling. Loved October, it resembles a MODx but it is more functional and elegant, it holds the power of Laravel, etc. But for some reason very little information about this CMS, the Russian-speaking forums are half-dead, the impression is that this CMS as if you do not trust. If there are people who chose her and effectively utilize, develop my doubts please!

upd1: For those who do not understand or have understood wrong, let me explain further:
  1. I have been working at web Studio as a programmer, I'm not going to open my own web Studio and certainly not trying to boast about! Please do not try to humiliate me for my question, sorry if I hurt they feelings!
  2. I just want to hear the opinion of those who are already working with OctoberCMS, not to waste time, because this this resource to help each other or not?
  3. We already use Joomla, WP, Bitrix, HostCMS, MODx, etc. choosing the right CMS for the task.
  4. For complex orders, we use Laravel.

Just the same Laravel pointed to the OctoberCMS, which by the way involved our compatriot Alexey Bobkov. I just wondering the opinion of those who took to their arms the CMS in a real fight, and makes her work projects. We have had to face in practice and what are the nuances?
July 8th 19 at 12:17
14 answers
July 8th 19 at 12:19
Say essentially:
October for you will be the perfect option, given that you are already working with Lara.
Juna enter once or twice. Lots of plugins, ease of development, customers rejoice the admin area.
Well, the plugin Builder is my favorite. Simply works wonders. Something similar to Pods for WordPress.
With him conveyor design of standard functionality (e.g. modules directory, gallery, Billboard, etc.) becomes tehlikeyi copy-paste. And given that it is made possible to export in the form of plug-ins and install in October through the Project ID, it is just Paradise for WebStudio.
So for small-medium projects strongly recommend.
I answered this response, because myself already convinced of this 100%, I just needed to hear it from someone else for inner peace (just scared that few people know about the Builder, that's huge! It is 10 min to do restful with the database and the forms). - charlene commented on July 8th 19 at 12:22
Well, after a Builder broke it in favorites. Although, I admit, still small projects to make wp+pods because of the greater freedom for the customer from vendor-lock, because the customers easier to put the plugin in the EP (like the same contact form7), than in the same October. Although there are a couple of get, as they say, is in the Humanities. - violette58 commented on July 8th 19 at 12:25
+1 =) - skylar.Prosacco commented on July 8th 19 at 12:28
, please look at the OctoberCMS and Russian language for the admin?
I think some stuff can not understand. - Dexter_Jones commented on July 8th 19 at 12:31
answered - violette58 commented on July 8th 19 at 12:34
July 8th 19 at 12:21
If you ask such questions, you and web-Studio is not necessary. Work a couple of years.
Sorry I do not understand what you mean. - charlene commented on July 8th 19 at 12:24
: He said that you should have a couple years to work. - violette58 commented on July 8th 19 at 12:27
: Yes but why? What about my question? I asked the opinion of the community about a relatively new product. Although I understand that there will always be those who just do not respect the interests of others and do not miss the opportunity to raise his CDA at the expense of lowering others. - skylar.Prosacco commented on July 8th 19 at 12:30
The answer lies already in your question.
SME unpopular, it is not so much standard solutions, great forums of ru-segment, but they are half dead.
The security there plus and minus. Sites zumapress attacked more often -> more often found error. On the other hand, they are often fixes.
In any case, I would, first and foremost, I climbed under the hood of CMS and looked at the quality of the code. Poor quality almost always results in a mountain of errors.
I think instead of another CMS is unclear why, it is better to learn PHP frameworks. Typical sites are like business cards, forums, Internet-shops to chip in gollapalem misunderstanding, and what is more difficult - on frameworks. Besides, it enhances the skill of the developers that these Ski better finished can. - Dexter_Jones commented on July 8th 19 at 12:33
: OctoberCMS is essentially a admin panel for Laravel. The number of participants and commit for two years will soon catch up MODx which is 9 years sawing. And the changes are mostly new features, not latanie security holes, because Laravel is considered quite a thoughtful framework. But I get the point, and I think I got the answer to your question about October in the course of just a few people in the course in Runet. But the evil programmers is more than enough :) - violette58 commented on July 8th 19 at 12:36
: I did not mean to offend. Just you in this matter not so wanted to ask opinions about Octobere like to boast that you have a web Studio. And if you had a little more experience, then you wouldn't have problems with the choice of CMS for portfolio website. And I'm not evil, and Vice versa. Good luck with your classmates with the web Studio! And remember that the key is to never give up and you will succeed! - charlene commented on July 8th 19 at 12:39
: I think the Asker is no longer a student: https://vk.com/mcmraak - glennie_Mer commented on July 8th 19 at 12:42
: You are not right interpreted the essence of my question ( not worth it to judge by yourself ), my message was not bragging, not trying to refill ego recognition, or something else from the category psychological self-satisfaction. I want for my Studio (and I'm just one of the programmers in the Studio) to facilitate workflow, to make more beautiful and accepted within the projects, less strain web designers obscure markings, and so on. You're not understanding, or simply based on the inability to think positively, immediately tried to publicly humiliate me (Dada, actually it looks that way, because you could just pass by and write your "about No. course smart comments" but not because you're "smart"). - charlene commented on July 8th 19 at 12:45
: the question is really stupid, no offense. No wonder so many likes on my comment. In other comments a lot of criticism. - glennie_Mer commented on July 8th 19 at 12:48
: The number of likes is not an indicator of the appropriateness of my question for me (I got the right information), just in Runet very much like you (no offense) "experts" who sit on such resources and without noticing ALCAT intellectual domination but not driven by the desire to help less experienced colleagues (think about it). Seeing something does not fall under their template is correct, often they are not even trying to delve into the issue just write something, in their opinion, touching the author of the question. Further, these same "intellectuals" are put under that jeer like all the trite. - charlene commented on July 8th 19 at 12:51
, do not pay attention to such evil people. You have quite a adequate question. - bridget commented on July 8th 19 at 12:54
July 8th 19 at 12:23
Projects are not doing on this CMS, but worked with her. Learned about it 2 years ago. It is now little known, as it is in beta testing. Soon as I know release. For beta testing it's good they have developed this cms.. is the Code elegant, functional - elegant appearance - elegant and comfortable. My eyes are happy when working with this cms. You can do the same websites, almost not getting into the code, which is very convenient and cool. Yes, and the big advantage is that he has done for Laravel. I repeat: soon release, and they already did everything well. After the release, I think, will have much more cool. So I suggest You at least try to do a couple of projects on it. If you really would do it well, then why not take it to develop Your orders?
July 8th 19 at 12:25
Web Studio based you need to have at least three leaders of CMS, preferably five, of course. And a few frameworks) Well, it certainly is if you not a programmer
Under a specific site is to select what you need, somewhere wp is better somewhere open-cart
So if anyone OctoberCMS the three leaders? Or is it a stupid project that no one uses, that is the question. - charlene commented on July 8th 19 at 12:28
: Top, you can look here www.ratingruneta.ru/cms But it is only for Rus. For Europe you can search for yourself. - violette58 commented on July 8th 19 at 12:31
July 8th 19 at 12:27
I have it one of the favorites. Along with the recognized leaders(VP and Jumla) and getsimple cms for landing pages, there is still a couple of(but in no case did not Drupal, in a nightmare not needed).
If You kopeeshnaya orders that do not need in the future to scale up the portals, then October is good. It is a modern product that takes into account many details that otherwise would have had to cut.
Because advisers that suggest to use frameworks can safely answer that You will use Caravel, which is now one of the leaders in the market.
Quite a good choice! But, of course, is to understand under which tasks fit this tool. If You mainly websites and business portals, then October may be a bit inappropriate for such tasks too cumbersome for the first(there do not need such redundancy code and the backend!), and too lightweight for a second(he is not comfortable will in the end for content managers).
Thanks, but about the awkwardness disagree a little bit, just the same, the admin panel is more responsive and user-friendly for contention than Joomla and WP (they admitted themselves), and that works with SQLite Oct increases ease of versioning and deployment of such projects significantly. And there is a native plugin "Editable", which allows to make the front end editable blocks for landing it. That's how it is for big and full of different content portals go, I can't tell yet, although I still decided and now we have started a project on it, soon I will see the thing, so far, everything runs smoothly... - charlene commented on July 8th 19 at 12:30
: once again, because apparently You have not grasped the basic idea - IF saitou-vizitok THAT October will be just teh task of such excess/bulky. For websites of business cards You Jenkins or getsimple. To explain why, or you will think of next?

For large(!) portals most likely will need a selection of appropriate databases, usability for content managers(and not only front/backend, but also with XML-RPC, for example), and fetch dynamic data on the page - what you will have to write myself something for more established TSMs may already be ready and opensource. Because at this stage, for really LARGE applications of Oct can be a little. As for custom needs will have to write your code, which is a plugin that on the scale of October will turn out to be so weighty that initially it would be easier to create it using the framework, without involving the CMS. That is, we are looking at man-hours, and we see that the use of Oct in similar tasks may prove to be unjustified. - violette58 commented on July 8th 19 at 12:33
, please look at the OctoberCMS and Russian language for the admin?
I think some stuff can not understand. - skylar.Prosacco commented on July 8th 19 at 12:36
, Soren, later saw. there already answered correctly. - Dexter_Jones commented on July 8th 19 at 12:39
, thank you for actually taking the time :) - violette58 commented on July 8th 19 at 12:42
July 8th 19 at 12:29
Web-Studio which does not know what cms to use, what's next? Meat which asks how to slaughter livestock?

p.s. Why do you need CMS? Take a better framework.
Web Studio knows and uses, including frameworks. I just decided to make to do a little personal research about a relatively new technology, so Your allegory is not more than the product of carelessness and disrespect to other people's interests. - charlene commented on July 8th 19 at 12:32
July 8th 19 at 12:31
Not good. At all.
Why? - charlene commented on July 8th 19 at 12:34
You can get some detailed answer, why not? - violette58 commented on July 8th 19 at 12:37
: well for a normal landing pages and other come down, but the Commerce it will not build - skylar.Prosacco commented on July 8th 19 at 12:40
: if the functionality is somehow possible without problems to write the interface very bad - Dexter_Jones commented on July 8th 19 at 12:43
July 8th 19 at 12:33
Joomla have to clean up.(and don't tell anyone that developed something on it)
MODx it is also desirable to remove.
WP - design.
Drupal sure srednyachek.
LAREVAL - top the fact that right now there.

And for Octyabrists(also remove it, as I understand it uses LAREVAL) not very popular(very few ready-made solutions, the addition, updates and General information, etc., etc.)
so what for him naked larabel if there is October, where larval with a bunch of ready-made modules and admin panel and CSS framework?
have Drupal middling WHAT? he's just terrible in service and client use.
Gumlu is not necessary to remove - the type of orders these and will come across to fix something, finished, etc. But there is still a lot of additional services comes with configuration, security, etc Gumlu in any case not to touch. in HIS case. - charlene commented on July 8th 19 at 12:36
: IMHO jakla the bottom of the bottom as orders for her. - violette58 commented on July 8th 19 at 12:39
: well, the opinion You have of course right, that does not mean if this opinion is true. - skylar.Prosacco commented on July 8th 19 at 12:42
: how many have seen the sites on jumble the bottom bottom and and with functionality. Although the idea is quite interesting. But the engine ruins everything. - Dexter_Jones commented on July 8th 19 at 12:45
: maybe because when You saw a good site - didn't realize that he Gumle? It has the advantage that in many cases a disadvantage. Free and a huge community extensions. Because it's easy to use as a professional(plus) and any student(minus). But if a professional is able at least to configure the CNC and to pull your(!) design for Jumla, the student puts on free hosting with tyreno theme of TemplateMonster, and eventually these visitors as You can see which tool used this lame job. Does this mean that tool worthless? Not at all! - violette58 commented on July 8th 19 at 12:48
: What's wrong with the Joomla engine? - charlene commented on July 8th 19 at 12:51
: the major users of this web Maestra and cattle coders. Orders of course penny. Accordingly, a good programmer will not get into this shit. - glennie_Mer commented on July 8th 19 at 12:54
: You evaluate the quality of the core Joomla user Joomla? All clear. - charlene commented on July 8th 19 at 12:57
: can system and good well I saw the current sad implemented on it results. - glennie_Mer commented on July 8th 19 at 13:00
: So sad the results can be for anything, and the fact that you've seen a lot of disappointing results on Joomla, only says that she is one of the most popular CMS in the world today and it is a third of the Internet works. The greater availability and popularity, the more Amateurs. - charlene commented on July 8th 19 at 13:03
July 8th 19 at 12:35
2017 under the sign of Oct) and point^ ^
July 8th 19 at 12:37
Depends on what you do. Classic Studio is a design and advertising for Commerce. Bitrix/Modx/your admin and a good salesman.
July 8th 19 at 12:39
The order is: Wordpress, Joomla, Bitrix and frameworks... But 2-3 would be enough for the Studio...
July 8th 19 at 12:41
OctoberCMS Is a CMS which is made by one person, but open source and it offers support for a Fee in extreme cases. I would chose her because she is not common and the client for finalization of the site will come to you it will be on the needle + lot of plugins and themes, and other CMS he will go to Milan and there he will make 10 times cheaper, but not since October, I've chosen Lara and watched on this CMS, there is little in the Ru segment specialists who work with this and almost one NV freelance sit
Well, not one view https://github.com/octobercms/october - charlene commented on July 8th 19 at 12:44
July 8th 19 at 12:43
I must say: not worked with OctoberCMS and don't know if it's good or bad.

But wouldn't svazatsa either with her or with the other popular CMS is not enough. Limited to Bitrix, Drupal, Worpress.

1) CMS should regularly get updates, t h and safety. If you believe the previous author, October supports one person. Suppose it will find a vulnerability and will begin to exploit and the author of the CMS are sick, going on vacation, will be too busy and will not be released during the patch, you yourself will be the hole to eliminate all customers?

2) the CMS should be a good active community to make difficult things has always been one to consult.
Do not even need to consult, at least to Google in case of some problem, what is veratnet to find a solution to your problem in the search engine for October and for Drupal/Joomla/Worpress.
Compare the forum activity October, for example, the forum of the same Drupal.

3) regarding the opinion: "But the client has not come off, tons of specialists on OctoberCMS not found"
To hold customer-specific technology - the last thing. If the result does not satisfy the client, he will not spare money to redo the site again, but the bitter experience this time will order on Joomla/Drupal/Wordpress, to be independent from the expert/Studio. And in the long term it would be still cheaper. There can of course be individual cases where in the website invested millions, and it brings billions, and every gesture is a risk. But this is the exception and the sites are written either from scratch or on the framework.

Not saying anything about OctoberCMS, it can be secure, fast, scalable. But until it becomes mainstream - it is not necessary to build the business, except for myself to play. However, it rocks and other CMS, is widely known in narrow circles.
Largely agree, but I want to note that October CMS is the two authors, and 140 contributors at the moment, I've been watching it on github, and see how she is growing by leaps and bounds. Consistently 30-50 a serious of commits a day, is very extensive discussions of even the most minor corrections, I see that a lot of people really believe in this technology, I see the dynamics of the emergence of new plugins, but wonder why so little attention in "our Kingdom", although not surprised, that I read the answers and comments now all became clear) - charlene commented on July 8th 19 at 12:46
July 8th 19 at 12:45
Well, I would advise for web Studio to use ImageCMS - perfect engine like website, business cards, and business portals. Joomla, WordPress in the basket.
I think that wp (and Joomla) is better than ImageCMS... - charlene commented on July 8th 19 at 12:48

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