How the cash games in a mobile application?

Hi all. We develop Indian cash game (Parcheesi, only on IOS for now), the game can participate up to 5 players. The game has in-app purchases you can buy 10 gold coins and to play them ( 10 gold coins - 10 rubles.). And now the question is: how to realize the money from the app ? How the user can get their real money if you win ?

What could be the stores?
July 9th 19 at 13:54
2 answers
July 9th 19 at 13:56
Solution
Perhaps you will need a offshore company with gambling license, the game could go in the Apple Store. On Play Market in the future can not rely: Google gambling did not miss.

By the way, something similar already happened here: there Will be moderation in playmarket and appstore gamble with the possibility of withdrawal of money?
but this game is considered gambling? vbochonke.ru/rules - Kyleigh_Hills commented on July 9th 19 at 13:59
: no, intellectual games stand apart from gambling and lotteries - audra_Ruecker commented on July 9th 19 at 14:02
: caught your idea, seeing that in the game "Pisici" (Google initially was too lazy).
On the other hand, in different stores if there is I / o, the game will automatically be considered as gambling, in my opinion. The same example on the link in the response, when the network preference blocked - audra_Ruecker commented on July 9th 19 at 14:05
: Here's how to interpret the law of the Russian Federation the term "gambling":

Article 4. The basic concepts used in this Federal law

For the purposes of the present Federal law following basic concepts are used:

1) gambling is a risk - based agreement on a prize, concluded by two or several participants of such agreement among themselves or with the organizer of gambling by the rules established by the organizer of gambling;
- Kyleigh_Hills commented on July 9th 19 at 14:08
I know the interpretation of the law, but intellectual games are not subject to it, as there are no random events and risk, and the outcome of the game depends on the erudition and intelligence of the player.
Here, for example, about your question explanation by the lawyer: https://pravoved.ru/question/952061/

But from the perspective of a Apple Store and Play Market we must not forget that they have their own concepts about gambling, which may not correspond to the legislation of the Russian Federation (except PokerStars would be available in Play Market, as in Russia, poker is a sport).

Therefore, with respect to the vehicle response remains valid: most likely need offshore gambling license to be able to produce it in case of blocking - audra_Ruecker commented on July 9th 19 at 14:11
: so as I understand it, if you want to make mobile app "vacance", the problems with placement in the stores should not be. so? - Kyleigh_Hills commented on July 9th 19 at 14:14
: just the same with the placement in the stores. the problems are, because "they have their own concepts about gambling".

For example, answers to: Will the moderation in playmarket and appstore gamble with the possibility of withdrawal of money?

Google Play:
For Google playmarket from 23 September 2013, any application that offers money or other valuables as a prize, falls into the category of gambling, and gambling is prohibited


Apple Store:
20.5. Applications that propose to play for real money (e.g. sports betting, poker, casino, horse racing) must have necessary permits and licenses in places where they are used and distributed in the App Store for free.

20.6. Applications that allow you to purchase credits or virtual currency via IAP to play for real money, will be rejected.


That is, in Google Play "vacance" may not count, but in the Apple Store pass can.

Just in Russia I have not heard about the gaming license for intellectual games (maybe they don't need to Apple Store and will be so).

P. s: I'm not a lawyer and my assumption is not the truth in the last instance, but the theme of gambling and intellectual games too interesting, as they plan their "hobby" project =) - audra_Ruecker commented on July 9th 19 at 14:17
: I wonder how it turns out: i.e. micropayments for virtual repair of wheels games racing - it's okay to collect, and as a return make money (the reward for knowledge award) - once considered as gambling.
And it's also interesting to know that if you give people the opportunity to work in the application (for example, writing in blog news) and for the work of the copywriters to pay money - also impossible? - Kyleigh_Hills commented on July 9th 19 at 14:20
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> And it's also interesting to know that if you give people the opportunity to work in the application (for example, writing in blog news) and for the work of the copywriters to pay money - also impossible?

I think that if the payment copywriters will go with your website (although if you think about it, in stores it seems there is no API for payments, except payment return), it is possible.
Even thinking about the examples that could be cited. Advertising texts etc exchanges are not found in the market, but "near-kopirajtera" and suitable for the conditions there.

In Play Market e: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.w...
Look at their blog about 2 weeks ago we introduced the possibility of recharge through the app ( blog.work-zilla.com/popolnenie-balansa-v-android-p... ).

Either they still hands did not reach, or it can - audra_Ruecker commented on July 9th 19 at 14:23
To the comment above: they do not use the market API for accepting payments in the app (judging by the news in the blog). And like not ( https://habrahabr.ru/post/211224/ ) and apparently, the app has not long to live - audra_Ruecker commented on July 9th 19 at 14:26
: what is it I - if the client (the app) completely free to put in the market for work/play (as a "tool"/"interface") and all payments and disbursements ("lobby") to conduct on its website and in the app - only display of the virtual balance website.
I wonder how it would be "working" solution from the perspective of the store? - Kyleigh_Hills commented on July 9th 19 at 14:29
:
  • To sell digital products through the game, presented in Google Play, you must use the payment system of Google Play content.
  • When selling digital products through other types of applications presented in Google Play, you must also use the payment system of Google Play content. The exceptions are the following cases:
    • selling non-digital goods;
    • selling digital content that can be used outside of the application (for example, tracks that can be played on other music players).


Source: https://play.google.com/intl/ru/about/monetization...

Alternative payment methods are not game currency, and services, is apparently still allowed. That is, in fact, quite working decision and allowed the - audra_Ruecker commented on July 9th 19 at 14:32
: Thanks! Stestim precosts.com with PayPal at Google play)). Like, the same pre-calculation of costs for IT projects. Accomplish your goal then, if you're interested. - Kyleigh_Hills commented on July 9th 19 at 14:35
: Yes, it will be interesting to know the results) good Luck to you!) - audra_Ruecker commented on July 9th 19 at 14:38
: Thanks! At first it was so: (SOLVED) Google has blocked a new application immediately. Why? - Kyleigh_Hills commented on July 9th 19 at 14:41
July 9th 19 at 13:58
Solution
for the ru market is the solution.
not enlighten?! (except AD and...) - Kyleigh_Hills commented on July 9th 19 at 14:01
: look at his answers: no without mentioning the "payme.biz" :D - audra_Ruecker commented on July 9th 19 at 14:04
: hmm... it is possible to estimate the chances) - audra_Ruecker commented on July 9th 19 at 14:07
mobile Commerce via billing sms2ru.ru.
implemented input and output for the bot telegrams, there have implemented an option within the bot to send money from phone to phone.
the game is important to write-offs and funding this account.
it's all there. - Kyleigh_Hills commented on July 9th 19 at 14:10
: do You have this experience ? - audra_Ruecker commented on July 9th 19 at 14:13
Yes. - Kyleigh_Hills commented on July 9th 19 at 14:16
: can with You to speak personally, please guide me how best to proceed. Here is my Skype - nbesito

can at any time write to call - audra_Ruecker commented on July 9th 19 at 14:19
Oh, I also want money to play. Have an idea for 1 000 000 $ .
But I'm not a programmer, unfortunately. The same question interests, whether really to the game "tie" the input/vyvoj of money automatically. Anywhere on the map, kiwi or pay PAL. - Kyleigh_Hills commented on July 9th 19 at 14:22

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