How to start a beginner web developer at the age of 17?

Hi! I'm 17 , graduated from grade 10 . For a year do web development and like to develop in this area , plans to enter a UNIVERSITY in the Czech Republic on the border of the IT profession.
It's summer and I would like to start making money on the web and to save for education ( budget for the flow are , but all will not suffice, the parents themselves are not stretched, so now have to save more). I want to get a boyfriend in web-Studio remotely , but the problem is that on the nose exams in the 11th grade , despite the fact that in the Czech Republic on the exam do not look , but to cut the bridges so just do not want , because it is necessary to prepare properly , but to combine study and work are unlikely . In this case the solution is to freelance for a long time I wanted him to fly and start making money, just does not work : customers do not accept my offer , because . reviews zero (portfolio is).
Don't know what to do , what way to choose - it is unlikely that the Studio will take 3 months, and the experience and money needed . Maybe get someone on a freelance helpers? How to start freelancing? Any suggestions and advice or options do you have? I would really appreciate your help)
PS I Live in Slupinski , so other work is not here , because I need to save for a residence in another country.
March 23rd 20 at 19:11
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March 23rd 20 at 19:13
How to start a beginner web developer at the age of 17?

McDonald's, building, lawn mowing.

earn on the web

Phaha.

I want to get a boyfriend in web-Studio remotely

No. Never. Do not take it. Of Juneau. On udalenku. Point.

Can get someone on freelancer

No.

How to start freelancing?

No way.

Every, damn it, a week such posts. Well, Google though the Toaster kind.

In short: this is a very bad plan, wild competition people with knowledge and experience above your will not give you any chance. Choose another area.
> McDonald's, building, lawn mowing.

Yeah, to make a study in the Czech Republic at the construction site... - della_Morissette81 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:16
You are not familiar with the realities of freelancing. Most of the projects outbid 10 times and in the end is the "VAS" June level in a very mediocre money. Start earning as a freelancer in 17 years with experience developing in 1 year? What could be easier!? - Ali_Wate commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:19
@Ali_Wate,
You are not familiar with the realities of freelancing.

You are not familiar with me. - brock commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:22
@jaunita_Rosenba, could you give a link to the profile of a successful freelancer of June level and links to jobs for remote June? - gaetano.Smitham27 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:25
@jaunita_Rosenba, demotivate the younger generation just need.
For nefig here. - maria_Bechtel commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:28
No. Never. Do not take it. Of Juneau. On udalenku. Point.

I took. Cooperate with the man so far. - Candice_Braun57 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:31
@gaetano.Smitham27, lost my comment =( - jaunita_Rosenba commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:34
@jaunita_Rosenba, well what did you expect? Insults, you know, this is not good. - brock commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:37
@Candice_Braun57, and why? Kindness was ready to spend twice more man-hours of regular middle and to check the work of remote Djuna, than it would be on decision making by midlam? Or was rather risky to roll out in prod gonski untested code, and reckless enough to increase the cost of maintaining the system this code? Or just save passing the order deliberately low-quality sub-contract? - gaetano.Smitham27 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:40
@jaunita_Rosenba, it's nothing, I remember him. You claimed that "without the slightest knowledge development, it is possible to earn in freelancing" and that "of the Junes take udalenku". - gaetano.Smitham27 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:43
@gaetano.Smitham27, the man was sure, in principle I he did not disappoint and this is a decision I have not regretted. - Candice_Braun57 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:46
@Candice_Braun57, so maybe he wasn't a boyfriend? - gaetano.Smitham27 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:49
@gaetano.Smitham27, well before you take it to the office just somewhere during the year I consulted on it if he rested in one or another probelm
despite the fact that at the time of his employment he was 17 years old I was sure much more than many June after uni - Candice_Braun57 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:52
@gaetano.Smitham27, ps school by the time it was still done on English gauvreau freely (whether a year or two he lived in the us) and overall know what she wants from life and that it needs a lot of work - Candice_Braun57 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:55
@Candice_Braun57, I think it was a rare atypical case where the expert does not fit well in the graduation and able to grow at a record pace. Besides, you had the ability to control its growth and to assess the degree of readiness to perform work. Usually the situation is opposite. - gaetano.Smitham27 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:58
@gaetano.Smitham27, I agree, as Pavlo remote June a little effective, but not impossible - Candice_Braun57 commented on March 23rd 20 at 20:01
Don't know, I have a friend in 17 years frilancer (in the same year and began). Income$ 500 per month. Apparently the odds are... - karlee.Brek commented on March 23rd 20 at 20:04
@karlee.Brekwas also a friend, liked to wipe stories about a lot of money on freelancing and constantly shot change for the bus. - brock commented on March 23rd 20 at 20:07
@brock, the account he opforce is, there seems writes profit from there and learned. - karlee.Brek commented on March 23rd 20 at 20:10
@gaetano.Smitham27, @della_Morissette81, @brock, mowing grass is also a freelance. - enola commented on March 23rd 20 at 20:13
@brock, all on a freelance earn real money good managers who know how to talk the talk customers. A simple example was the order microlending (1 screen only) with the admin. The price for the customer 6 thousand (according to my information, maybe the price was higher). The contractor received because of the money 3 thousands) I understand that there is work to 1-2 PM with a break (given that the design was given initially), but the Manager got the same 3 thousand. But long before this Manager was still the Manager? History is silent) Conclusion - grandmother want to learn to be a good Manager. From the point of view of the ordinary by 3 thousand over 4-5 hours, it's all fat. But it's still way vnikuda) - jerald_Ve commented on March 23rd 20 at 20:16
@karlee.Brek, it all depends on the background. There was a time when I was good up on freelancing, but it's very quickly exhausting. Can be into 24/7, will the income of more than$ 500, but what the money's for, if there is no personal life? )) Actually in my experience as a freelancer in most cases, to make good money need to work more. To increase the cost of the work is very problematic) - jerald_Ve commented on March 23rd 20 at 20:19
5 years alternating between freelance work / office when there are no orders on their projects for 6 months looking for at least some order Upwork. Customers do not even read the application, a surplus of personnel began now everywhere, especially on the web. So I started C++ to get it to rabocheostrovsk level, while there is time.
I would not recommend anyone web, the ceiling in the CIS to 2-3 $ for Kiev or Moscow, it's a penny. About 500 bucks actually can be silent, because to rent a hut for$ 500, another way to eat, rest, girl, and if children, HS, all 5 000 dollars by my standards, a month will fly.
What is really worth attention is DevOps, but a good CV should be in my opinion is fumbling in many ways. At least 10 years generally in development. And there to Security Ops at hand then. Sec-ty specialists in the CIS on the fingers can count, basically all the work "behind the scenes", outside the system. - eloy.Pagac commented on March 23rd 20 at 20:22
March 23rd 20 at 19:15
Damn, and I thought - what is so broke then? But it throwed the "night of drunken bows" :)

CU and all the former are students - first, carefully, letter by letter, read the response @brock - this will save all of you lots of nerves, time, self-esteem and health.

In the second place:
No one ever takes the Junes on udalenku

On udalenku take only full-grown spices, which has its own portfolio and that he can dictate terms of employment. Joon can take only in office because no one should have to answer for what he broke another deadline - and ask-you have nothing! If June got a job in the office for any money (there any is quite literally!) - it needs a corporate hymn singing from happiness :) And buzzing with elektrovenik, to work, to gain experience, remembering that it is no one to call him.

Yes, freelancing people earn. And sometimes even well so that I can say :)

But in this earnings go over the years. If someone thinks that he is registered with on freelance.ru and then it will flow expensive and simple orders - it is better to slap himself on the forehead to Wake up.

Fast and a lot of it in the freelance junuh earn is impossible

Especially now, when after the "night of drunken bows" there will rush goodmagazine students dreaming of a miracle-working and to throw (well, those who actually do) already low prices and exacerbate the already high competition...

Want over the summer to earn money, not to count the pennies on how to get there - leave the dreams of working at home. To work at home does not work and the people with stopitsot times a high level of self-organization than yesterday's pupil. Go to McDonald's - not to baldet, and to work on the construction site, the promoters, flyers to post, dogs, strangers to walk...

Welcome to the hard and ruthless world of adults. You all seem so hurried - thump and the girls feel? You are welcome. But don't be offended by the harsh reaction to the world you really care...
the world you actually care

100500 likes this guy - sigmund.Ferry commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:18
No one ever takes the Junes on udalenku

Despite some of the Junes. I took once :)
But yesterday's student is not able to work, take scary at least with some knowledge. Miss this deadline and fill up the project, dissolving in anywhere and not answering phone calls.
But generally, there are companies that rowing to all who make it. Make it certainly hard, in code hell, but the real experience at least some will. - Rosario_Gorczany41 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:21
March 23rd 20 at 19:17
I want to get a boyfriend in web-Studio remotely
Not sure remotely You can learn something really. Remotely usually work either seasoned pros, or those who do not understand what they're looking at all that...

It's summer and I would like to start making money on the web and save to study
Based on your work experience and the limitation in a few months. - I'm afraid to disappoint You, but to make any worthwhile amount, You are unlikely to succeed.

but to cut the bridges so just do not want
The exam can be retaken...

but to combine study and work are unlikely
I would not recommend trying to combine them, I remember one time he so lived there (because tuition I had to pay), about half a year... "neither here Nor there".

portfolio is
Quality? Show?

Don't know what to do
To choose one thing, either study or work.

it is unlikely the Studio will take 3 months
The office would probably take, especially if you do not tell them that for 3 months. (although it would not be very fair from Your side). But the s/n there would be likely so... what is called "ice cream".

Maybe get someone on a freelance helpers?
When I wanted to learn how to dismantle the car - I was asking for an assistant to anyone, "for free", "for the food" agreeing to almost any conditions.

How to start freelancing?
Something like this:
1. Register on freelancing
2. To make some of the items (preferably small) for a "thank you" (or so)
3. Gather a few positive reviews from customers
4. Start slowly to make...
*when I promoted the web-Studio (site) - small orders we rarely did in the literal sense for "thank you", just to enter the market...

Any suggestions and advice or options do you have?
To look for a job at the nearest office, if You are offered s/n which is enough to get the room to buy something to eat + travel to work and back (if there are no studios) - consider it good. Or to engage in learning and self-development simultaneously.

PS
Hi! I'm 17
Hi! You just 17? Not counting spaces before punctuation marks, correct speech, for a person under the age of 17...
The exam can be retaken...
The exam can be retaken but after years of the army and the loss of brains with the desire to achieve something. And if I'm not mistaken, retake already paid

Hi! You just 17? Not counting spaces before punctuation marks, correct speech, for a person under the age of 17...
Too Intrusive and not related to the topic - marty_Bailey61 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:20
Too Intrusive and not related to the topic
This is purely Your personal opinion, which I am personally not particularly interested in and relates to the topic no more, what I was talking about.

The exam can be retaken but after years of the army and the loss of brains with the desire to achieve something.
The author of the question did not say anything neither about the "loss of brains", nor about the army, according to this, I think we should not think out of it.

And if I'm not mistaken, retake already paid
Getting zagranpasporta or say, your driver's license is also paid, but where does it all? - Kiarra.Ward7 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:23
@marty_Bailey61,
but after years of the army and the loss of brains with the desire to achieve something

Don't judge what you don't know yet - asa.Dicki commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:26
@asa.Dicki, there is a suspicion that he knows not by hearsay... :))) - Kiarra.Ward7 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:29
@Kiarra.Ward7, there is a suspicion that he wasn't in the army - asa.Dicki commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:32
portfolio aztecaonline? Show?

I will say immediately that scarce and, apparently, in this lies my failure:
www.devhistory.ru - this is my first website made for a portfolio,
and other projects training: with fructcode'a, udemy, and Academy of layout.
Ahead of you, I have to say that, Yes, portfolio is poor and uninteresting and need to focus on it, but I don't have time for this right now, I wanted to develop it, making projects for a penny.
Hi! You just 17? Not counting spaces before punctuation marks, correct speech, for a person under the age of 17...

Yes, exactly, thanks for the comment and advice) - Noble17 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:35
To choose one thing, either study or work.

as one of my teacher
if work interferes with studies, drop school
- Khalil commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:38
@Kiarra.Ward7,
Getting zagranpasporta or say, your driver's license is also paid, but where does it all?
Retake the exam and taking it, like, different things and they should not be combined :/
And what does all of this - I don't know who to ask

The author of the question did not say anything neither about the "loss of brains", nor about the army, according to this, I think we should not think out of it.
Yes, but he also talked about the exam. His first task is to pass the exam the first time and not give up with 100500-th... - marty_Bailey61 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:41
but I don't have time for this right now, I wanted to develop it, making projects for a penny.
Yes, I confess, a little bit poor... I still think You need to stay on one thing and focus on that, and other things to do in their free time. So You are far more likely to achieve goals in at least one direction that is better than nothing, especially not to reach in several. - Kiarra.Ward7 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:44
www.devhistory.ru

I would not have ordered from you site. - reagan.Corwin86 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:47
@marty_Bailey61,
And what does all of this - I don't know who to ask
I, too, unfortunately.

Yes, but he also talked about the exam. His first task is to pass the exam the first time and not give up with 100500-th...
In this case, as I see it, the answer (for the Asker) is obvious. Basically what I wrote above. - Kiarra.Ward7 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:50
@asa.Dicki, don't know what to judge? Like, I said all right, after the army (read: doing nothing in the course of the year with songs about the "Katyusha" and "victory Day") you will lose all your desire to do anything - marty_Bailey61 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:53
@Kiarra.Ward7, in General, Yes, you're right, my school was sent a week in the Semenov regiment. And if a week you mentally killed, in a year will be not so - marty_Bailey61 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:56
@marty_Bailey61,
read: doing nothing in the course of the year with songs about the "Katyusha" and "victory Day"

If a person wants, he is looking for a way, not excuse. No one bothers to spare time for self-development.
If your army is doing nothing in the course of the year with songs about "Katyusha", then you have a problem with self-organization. - asa.Dicki commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:59
@Noble17, you can do projects for a penny, not only for any companies, but also for their friends - marty_Bailey61 commented on March 23rd 20 at 20:02
Guys, calm down about the army, everyone has their own opinion. of course, but for me, the army is not true, because I still don't fit. - Noble17 commented on March 23rd 20 at 20:05
@asa.Dicki, I wonder... Army != self-organization. There everything is done according to clear instructions, as not following them can have serious consequences. And Yes, these same instructions, you're less likely to make by yourself. But if the word self-organization means You have to paint the grass or snow before the arrival of the General, and sing songs about how everything is fine, the problem is not me, sorry - marty_Bailey61 commented on March 23rd 20 at 20:08
March 23rd 20 at 19:19
Hello friend.
I know there are so many people who missed the opportunity was not there, not at the time, but not less than, and those who were there at that time but exactly they did not work, because one is not enough conditions, and the other is not enough aspirations, goals and desires. You probably know that not all those who start, they all work, if you for example were not born a techie and you do not go out and you exert a lot of effort to this, it is obvious that you either do not learn or learn to program(but then as luck and depends on how much effort you make),if you were born a techie(by nature have this mindset) but few make an effort or you have no desire and in this case you do not get, is logical. If you want to learn what is a variable then you just read it or go through other means (for example) watch the video tutorials, crash course 24 hours on a variable, unless of course you find. Imagine how easy it is to learn what is a variable in any language you just need to read, watch, and not to ask questions, and what programming language I should learn whether it was possible to become a programmer in 15 years, again, I want to know what is a variable in c#/java/c++ just read about it or ask what is a variable? the whole response.
Of course those who have the talent, the mind(the programmers'), which is needed of course they will be easier to understand what is a variable or they have a good memory to memorize, memorize, not forget about it later, but if you do not have this so-called mind hacking, then you either fail, just fail, or you succeed if you put a lot of effort, or you have a technical mind in the process of learning or I don't know you will fall on the head brick, and you will become a programming genius or Vice versa is retarded, but you'll never know without trying.
Now back remember one cool quote, it is this:
"To hold n hours, you should clearly understand why you do it. For the sake of your family, or your man was happy? You need someone praise or money as a freelancer? Very sorry for those n hours, if your target is stupid ambitions, other people's dreams, your greed, or someone's stereotypes. For what this pain, sweat and tears? For what is this blood on the keyboard? Come on: either you're honest to yourself to answer this question, or buy yourself a red bag. n hours, then to say, "I Have love, family, success, work, fame, money," but now there's only you and your target. "
Returning to the question, you can earn as a freelancer and at the age of 14 and 15 and 16, etc.
The main thing that you were there with the knowledge needed to implement this task in that time and then your age no one will need, if you can implement it.
Of course there are exceptions, but are you sure these exceptions affect you, or think that the tap and sit at home doing nothing.
Good luck to you!
March 23rd 20 at 19:21
Well, look, I have a very similar situation. Too use through the year, school, but the only difference is that I live in the capital and want to shift in IT company in Japan.
Now to the point. In General, you can get a part time job to one of your friends (I think that in your company there is at least one who would want to have a website). On freelancing it is possible to get, but again, not in a large company. You can at least escape to a different group in the same contact on freelancing and there to find someone. If you very well, I need feedback, it is possible to follow the example of the author of books about Python Measles Althoff. In the end, he suggests that it is possible to log on the forum, a La Upwork and forget there to invite a friend who will act as the employer. There he will ask you to make a website, you are doing it, it is about you positive feedback to you starts to go popular. There is nothing complicated. Most importantly - do not merge at the end, as many do, and achieve my senior goals!)
Too use through the year, school, but the only difference is that I live in the capital and want to shift in IT company in Japan.


Could not read further. You will find many surprises and not all of them will be pleasant. - brock commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:24
@brock, with such suprisely I'm ready to face, after all, I know what they are going to know about them from the blogs about trips to Asia - marty_Bailey61 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:27
I think that in your company there is at least one who would want to have a website

For the author more important that his company was at least someone who is willing to pay.

On freelancing it is possible to get, but again, not in a large company

Freelance is not settled.

zaregatsya on the forum, a La Upwork

This is not a forum.

There he will ask you to make a website, you are doing it, it is about you positive feedback and you begin to go popular.

And you'll both get banned. - gaetano.Smitham27 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:30
@gaetano.Smitham27,
And you'll both get banned.
Ban for what?

This is not a forum
Yeah, I know, my bad, just didn't know how else to call

For the author more important that his company was at least who are willing to pay.
I think we need to start small and not immediately with a super-duper whitesnow company where you'll take on Apple in the first day. In addition, you can also ask my friends to pay for his work... - marty_Bailey61 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:33
@marty_Bailey61,
Ban for what?

It will be seen, as cheat the rating.

you can also ask my friends to pay for his work...

The author needed money for school fees. This is clearly not 15 thousand rubles. And pay good money to zero by hardly anyone will agree, even an acquaintance. - gaetano.Smitham27 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:36
@gaetano.Smitham27, I don't think the author will find the money to study Verstov usual sites. It is, moreover, having only one job, and even in this age

It will be seen, as cheat the rating.
I don't think so it will work - marty_Bailey61 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:39
@marty_Bailey61, and in vain do not think it works. UpWork hard bans, sometimes for no apparent reason even. If svejeprigotovlenny the customer will give feedback svejeprigotovlennogo artist, but still not passing through the system UpWork'and the payment of proper size - it will attract attention. Especially if the customer and the contractor in the same region. - gaetano.Smitham27 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:42
@gaetano.Smitham27,
If svejeprigotovlenny the customer will give feedback svejeprigotovlennogo artist
Well, what fool would signup and give feedback for the website, which is done for months.. of Course, you need time to wait

Especially if the customer and the contractor in the same region.
I don't think that's such an important issue. Kraynyak - change the ip or other methods - marty_Bailey61 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:45
@marty_Bailey61,
Of course, you need time to wait

Have no time to wait so as not to arouse suspicion and make a dozen orders for other workers.

Kraynyak - change the ip or other methods

Public VPN/Proxy too, attract attention. - gaetano.Smitham27 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:48
@gaetano.Smitham27, hush!.. The guy decided that he knows of a way to outsmart everyone) - Joseph.Bogan commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:51
March 23rd 20 at 19:23
Came here with serious intentions, but after reading tips students - student - neighing. And I'm still going to see him in profile neighing.

No need to go anywhere. While you're doing shit - on orders would not be going. Think about the customer
On Your advice, he needs to do nothing. He is doing bad=>we need to practice=>he does bad, then nothing needs to be done - christy.Baumbach commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:26
@christy.Baumbach, first, thank you for wrote the address with a capital letter. Glad that at least one of us respects the other. Secondly, it is not true. "While you're doing shit - in orders do not need to go". Practice up until a perfect result. Not fancy or perfect - perfect.

Just so you know, the first order took a year and a half of personal practice. I realized that contribute to the development of another business - a responsibility that cannot be taken indifferently. But the first order came out to$ 50,000)

The response of the single read. Well, isn't that right? Planted my ass freelancing and darn shit for shit - Cristopher.Kloc commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:29
@Cristopher.Kloc, VP on the order of$ 50,000 did? - enola commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:32
@enola, first no. I recently had a project for a corporate website of a private Bank. Total cost 90 000$ - Cristopher.Kloc commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:35
March 23rd 20 at 19:25
Students... Learn better from you now about freelancing some nasty things in mind. The web is sanoe swamp, where you sit ass 24/7 trying to make dosik freelance or 10-12/7, making a rich uncle, who will work hard. I don't have to fill in about your 10+ years of experience. Monkeys remain monkeys, as they would not have received.
Ie, Your advice - and learn.
To learn where and what? In school? For lessons on the Internet? - christy.Baumbach commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:28
@christy.Baumbach, at school, at uni, there is nothing on the web to do, you see, and find something better, but no, welcome to the galleys - sigmund.Ferry commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:31

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