Higher IT education for migration "applied Informatics" — in absentia?

Good afternoon.

Started to think about moving to Germany, but from the education I have only SPO (secondary vocational), and that the "Building of buildings and constructions" the technician.

Found information about the Blue Card, but if earlier it was possible to obtain with 5 years experience, now it is only higher education.

For full-time go I can't, maybe a job, a house, and takes its age (22 years) *jk, in General in the Urals Federal district from his correspondence IT found only a "Applied computer science", of course I would like to "Computer security" or "Mathematics and Computer science", but it's only internally.

In fact, I understand that a good github account at times better than the crust of a student from the Urals, but for moving as I understand it is important.

+ on a work visa I am not able to take the wife, and at the Blue Card she will get a visa *Spouse of owner BC*, and we can live happily, so good ever after.

The essence of the question is whether distance education in Applied Informatics under the Highest technical IT education?

may be encountered, or have received correspondence education in that area, tell me maybe there's something better than what I found.

Thank you for your attention
March 23rd 20 at 19:24
3 answers
March 23rd 20 at 19:26
Started to think about moving to Germany, but from the education I have only SPO

Typical wannabe-migrants.

Ask yourself: "I am unable to achieve something in Russia?". If not, try to do it at least here, otherwise then it will be excruciatingly painful.
And for what, and what we need to achieve? The meaning of life, in order to achieve something? Maybe people just want a quiet life without the need for ongoing achievements. - Shawna_Spor commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:29
@Shawna_Spor, if the person is not able to provide a more or less normal life in his native country, then in another he has no chance at all. Wannabe-migrants strongly believe that the border of Dreamland, where they will begin to fall from the sky money and other grace as soon as they enter. But it's not. - adeline_Greenholt commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:32
@adeline_Greenholt, is Full of examples of people who found themselves in other countries and even found his or her calling, which is here not even imagined. - Shawna_Spor commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:35
@Shawna_Spor, of article on habré obchitalis? - Jennifer commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:38
@Jennifer, where does the Habr, lives but IT is not that right? - Shawna_Spor commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:41
@Shawna_Sporeven more stories about those who did not and found myself mired in the "Russian quarter"
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or even returned to his Homeland and tells stories about how not be able to live among the spirits. - adeline_Greenholt commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:44
You and th make such conclusions with stamps?
I now also have no towers, I am 35 years old and I "a lot which has made" many different areas tried, have a salary much above "the national average" and above "the national average among it people"
And now I sit here and think...damn, I wish I 22 gone, and there would have done it all, and not here. But now it is somewhat harder to do
A Council vehicle and get a rig, so really easy at your age
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And the tips first then get and then blather... well, in actual fact, that I've made, I over the hill? - linnea commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:47
@adeline_Greenholt, no, I do not amuse ourselves with hope in the style of "going all hush-hush, mountains of gold and life easier", I am rather very happy with the situation in terms of politics and freedom of speech/action, etc., I understand that to work hard to live in the same conditions will have 2 times more than here, because I am trying to develop here and to start projects to do, just look to the future, and plans are - lexus27 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:50
@lexus27,
not very happy with the situation in terms of politics and freedom of speech/actions

Oh, how many wonderful discoveries are waiting for you in Germany. My God, how you will be disappointed. - Jennifer commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:53
@lexus27, And you do not watch the news? In Germany over the past six months naprinimali laws that we have freedom of speech/actions, all of a sudden better (understand that is), but it is the objectivity of your argument - linnea commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:56
@linnea, usually is the answer "jacket, sizes 11-80, creambath" and other manifestations of denial. - Jennifer commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:59
@Jennifer, okay, I understand you, do not kill the dreamer in me)
You can ask, what education do you have? - lexus27 commented on March 23rd 20 at 20:02
@lexus27better kill the dreamer now below 40 don't become an alcoholic from the crisis of middle age.

Now interested in the second higher, why? - Jennifer commented on March 23rd 20 at 20:05
@Jennifer, I was just wondering, are you one of the tops, I wonder your opinion about relevant IT education, and what education you have, these things - lexus27 commented on March 23rd 20 at 20:08
@lexus27, that just answered a similar answer :)

Specialized education for the programmer is vital, without mathematics on the web-sites will not go away. The chip in the structuring of the material and the vdalblivanie it with a hammer in Moscow, that for the same period of time is not achieved by self-education. About the sysadmin does not know, have not received specialized education in this direction, and, oddly enough, to reach heights in this field, in contrast to coding.

So the grandmother has in two told.

But if you want to go on the tractor, the "crust" is necessary. - Jennifer commented on March 23rd 20 at 20:11
Specialized education for the programmer is vital, without mathematics on the web-sites will not go away.

Debatable, it depends on the person, not from the presence of "brown"
p.s. I actually missed the "sites" and not study from a lack of academic knowledge, CANT?
p.p.s. Oh yeah, the only thing I have not mastered is the science of memorization of textbooks by heart, what bothers me sometimes in interviews

But if you want to go on the tractor, the "crust" is necessary.

Crane is desirable but not essential - linnea commented on March 23rd 20 at 20:14
@linnea, it means that major projects you worked, no offense. I mean serious, really serious, where you apply Malappuram, TPR, igrostroy. - Jennifer commented on March 23rd 20 at 20:17
@Jennifer, I Have no division "seriousness" of projects in terms of malaparte (that's another question, who designs and should understand such things, programmers, or other engineers) and igrostroya
I have worked in very important projects, bigger toys. Yes, there was a hell of calculations, but their importance for our country (Russia) was (and is) quite significant.
The level of my income now is higher than many programmers with the HSE (in Russian)

so what do you think the criterion should be judged "correct" programmer? Participation in projects with mataparae or igrushechniy? - linnea commented on March 23rd 20 at 20:20
@linnea, your contemptuous attitude towards the game suggests that you imagine the huge stack of technology that it uses. This is because geometry, trigonometry, vectors, advanced mathematics including integral and differential calculus. This is a 3D modeling, artificial intelligence, serious approach to application architecture and optimization.
Oh, major projects may not use mutipart, but the machine flies cryptography (you are there for the Russian Federation did not use cryptography, it is not entirely clear), fly off the database, because without TPR and Matan anything more than simple coding is not done, flies more or less serious system programming.
It's not an insult, and so, for reflection. It is not necessary to be measured pipiskami on the Toaster cut everything at 300k in php, not particularly straining (C) - Jennifer commented on March 23rd 20 at 20:23
@Jennifer, Well, your words that the programmer is vital
however, all is reduced only to me, subjective metrics the need and obligation, roughly "I believe that the programmer should be awesome to consider the integrals in the mind and programming 3D who do not know how he is not a programmer" - I agree that this is weird?
I know that in games is very difficult matmodel and 3D, and also in cryptography, however there are programmers who do this, and there are those who write the software to control diesel generators for example (although I often faced with such embedded software, can a lot of unflattering words against them to say, but that's a topic for another conversation). so who are the "right" programmer and Rihanna necessary rig? - linnea commented on March 23rd 20 at 20:26
@linnea, huh? I just said that games are not only schoolchildren and nerdy, but also a whole range of technologies.

The tower is vital for those who will be working with technology where we need academic knowledge.
Of course, you can reach your mind to much, but why reinvent the wheel and spend a lot of time when there is already a ready camera? - Jennifer commented on March 23rd 20 at 20:29
@Jennifer,
The tower is vital for those who will be working with technology where we need academic knowledge.

Here is an honest and correct answer

but why reinvent the wheel and spend a lot of time when there is already a ready camera?

Life is short, and not all start a career as a programmer immediately after school. I have programming became my primary specialty only 5 years ago (although the experience in IT I have a much more)
and "spend a lot of time" to learn in College, it becomes more difficult. in addition, the lack of towers in most cases (except tractor questions and certain areas of IT) is not a problem all - linnea commented on March 23rd 20 at 20:32
March 23rd 20 at 19:28
He examine this point. More precisely already solved. But I program recent immigrants, there is a little easier.
In General, the essence of what the Germans completely side what's your education, if the University where you took (eat) the tower is not certified (or accredited?) what kind of organization.
With the success that they have to go fishing, you have to pass special training courses for the fishing...well, the crust does not need to do that to tie your shoelaces:)
And ideally, you can (and probably should), find a job, to move on a work visa (in this case), to tighten the language up to C1 and to enroll in their school. Less C1 will not take to learn, because C1 is the ability to read technical literature, to write her and at least like to speak.
In practice, people initially find a job, receive an invitation and gradually dumped.
In General, it is worth looking SN in Germany, to examine the price tag on housing (few people in their home lives - mainly rent), Internet, taxes (about 40% of the po instead of our 13%%), etc. and think about what the common man especially anywhere well not live for nothing - all we have to plow.
More information of course only on the thematic forums.
@SteppenHorde, Yes, everything about it, but I was referring directly to income. Though I believed in total subsidized premiums about 40%, not 30%), SP (like me), generally fixed rate to the pension Fund, and pension minimum salary will be output. The use of such contributions directly to me is very vague. A country of contradictions... - Lauren_Schmeler82 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:31
@SteppenHorde, and, well, yeah, not in favor of Germany interesting taxes to stormwater drainage (rain drips off your roof water to the stormwater drainage drains - pay), television (a TV or not have you, no one cares - pay, in return for the Central channels no ads), and in General similar taxes)
On the one hand of course it's unsettling to hear about such taxes, on the other - and why would I not? If you looking to get rid of, you would have to pay (however 25 euros I'm not ready for our TV without ads to pay), and would pay for stormwater drainage, maybe they would have worked, and the city from the rain mid-priced doesn't sink would... - Lauren_Schmeler82 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:34
March 23rd 20 at 19:30
The externship. It refers to full-time education. Because of the externship, there is a limit on the number of exams per year, possible in 2 years to the tower.
A bachelor degree through the external studies diploma 3 years in Russia. - ed commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:33
@ed, limited only by number of exams for the year so not really, but 2 is possible. In 2005, exactly now can exams added. - Shawna_Spor commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:36
@Shawna_Sporto get a diploma gosobraztsa, the plan must conform to the standards. Order of the Ministry of education and science of the Russian Federation of 19 December 2013 № 1367 limits number of credits per year to 75, and to pass the baccalaureate, you need to dial 240.
Diploma NMU (listed elsewhere) it is theoretically possible to obtain in 2 years, but without the substances from the family of amphetamines it is unlikely. - ed commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:39
@ed, Yeah (( Changed conditions. In 2005 the restriction was only on the number of exams (20 per year) to offset restrictions was not. Now set "scoring" - Shawna_Spor commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:42
@Shawna_Spor, learned a couple of years ago in his samotnom the boondocks (the oblast center, the capital of the earth, all the works) on the topic of externature. I was told that now in Russia there is no such. Canceled and that's that. And I wanted over the winter diploma of the same finish third in 2 years of training and then I became too busy in uni to spank the session. - Lauren_Schmeler82 commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:45
@Lauren_Schmeler82, www.edu.ru/vuz/card/moskovskij-gosudarstvennyj-uni... - Here for example. So what is there in Russia. - Shawna_Spor commented on March 23rd 20 at 19:48

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