The complexity of the operation 1C8 for a beginner?

Hi all.
There is a vacancy in major shopping entertainment center:
Technical support employees. Administer office network, software and office equipment company. Support, upgrades, administration of software product 8 1C (trade and warehouse). Comprehensive antivirus protection for PCs, servers enterprise. Administration and configuration of IP - telephony.

Can do everything above, except the 1S. So the question is: how difficult is it to get into the swing of things specifically for her, whether it is necessary?
Conditions:
My sysadmin side specialty.
Fear to put the system/database.
Know how to Google.
1C-spec this is one round sum in addition to the payment of other obligations, or I'm exaggerating the level of difficulty for the administrator?
June 8th 19 at 17:13
4 answers
June 8th 19 at 17:15
Solution
Administration is backups. If you follow the letter of the vacancy.

From pitfalls not described - if there is a configuration 1S modified by the programmer, it is so simple, and even more so without the skill of programming - will not update. But if not modified, and stock, that is initially coming from 1C to update it, maybe even a housewife, far from it.

Another pitfall performance. If they have complaints on performance, just without the knowledge to understand would be problematic. If they have no such problem - it's all good.

The third pitfall - if there is not a file, but SQL version. And administration of SQL server you are not familiar like.

Cheverny pitfall licenses and/or keys, if they fly. But it's not difficult. You only need to razobratsya single.

The fifth pitfall - if you suddenly need to change 1C, that is, to program their queries. This is not the administration.
June 8th 19 at 17:17
Solution
You have nothing to fear. To work in the 1C program, you can teach in 1 hour. I mean to exploit this program:
1)to make the dictionary elements (products, customers)
2)to create documents (goods receiving, shipment of goods moving between warehouses)
3)using reports (report on the store, the sales report)

Plus, I can show you how to create users, assign them rights, and to put the updates - but that you will need if you entrust the administration of 1C.

Another thing - 1C programmer. This is the case you need to learn. To learn need a little bit to understand what is programming. But the usual courses from certified centers 1C solves this problem.

Read your message completely - I see you want to charge upgrade, administration 1C. This is nonsense. It's very simple. The updates are easy. To add a program you don't have to, because otherwise they would have written "customization". Well printed forms to tweak you will always be able. In short, do not be afraid. Better find a buddy who will show you how to operate and administer 1s and no training will not be needed. But first find out which version of 1C trade is with them. there is a "Trade Management 11" and "trade Management 10.3 is a different program (configuration). Very different. It makes no sense to study both, If used alone.

If 1C programming learn even roundnose girls without relevant education, you - SIS webmaster to figure 1C will be very easy. I have experience 1C programmer 12. So I know whereof I speak.
But first find out which version of 1C trade is with them.

So like right in the question it is written that in a new place semëročnoj Tees :) - Modesto28 commented on June 8th 19 at 17:20
The TIS is "stock". This was only on the platform 7.7. And on the platform 8 such no. There is only the "trade Management", which is incompetent people call TIS the old fashioned way. And on the eighth platform there is a version 10.3 and version 11. This is what you need to figure out which one because they are very different. - Miracl commented on June 8th 19 at 17:23
they're not salary or accounting, and trade. what the operator, cashier, storekeeper, managers. It is not difficult to understand. Set up automatic data backup every hour, curtailed the rights of anyone is superfluous and unnecessary. And problems a 1C programmer to decide. Wrong that programmers do not know about the administration. They actually do develop an 1C configuration from scratch and is constantly rake in serious problems. Where I worked, there were no administrators 1C - everything was done by the programmers, and administrators to 1C were not allowed near. Well, if the number of bases a few dozen, then there is of course a pain in the ass will arise, but if everything is set up correctly, then the glitches will occur only if the network cuts off. And SIS administrators have little idea about 1C. This is a perfect product, which has no analogues and competitors. Better than 1C in Russia had not yet been invented. In these sorts of Sap R3 and other ERP systems full hanger and lame. And 1C is very flexible and one foot already on the web. The only bad - tired and scraped away the problems and the eternal updates this longing sadness. Because of this and went to the web programmers. - Miracl commented on June 8th 19 at 17:26
I was a leading specialist in several industries where these 1s program expected entire plants. Of course a server I brought up, it was the admin, but the sql server would start and they were raised by 1s. The administrator never had to do, all worked on hurrah. Only the server change periodic. But cheto 1C did not complain, because all the problems were solved by the programmers. To be a system admin is like being a seller in the market and everyone can become, as any student who is able to raise the Windows. it does not work. This is even as the work of a security guard to sit all day and games to cut and wait for something to happen. Think system admins do not know how. Th there - they're just soft and put the configs right. To do this, do not mind. And programmers writing operating systems, accounting systems, web applications, and it is necessary to have a strong mind and he trains them every minute. They even think differently and are smarter than most other people. So what's the point SIS the admin something there to prove to the programmer, if the programmer he just anycast that inserts the stick in the computer when the programmer will say to him, Because it developer status does not allow to be picked in the gland and get under a table or to go in a stuffy server. - Miracl commented on June 8th 19 at 17:29
Yes , just everything.
don't scare people.

where the real complexity and super-complicated installation-predlojenie - always there or outside permanent or a full-time permanent programmer in 1C will help you understand. - efrain.Rolfso commented on June 8th 19 at 17:32
Did not guess, otherwise I would not wrote about the support 1C-Ki. Save. - delores_Eichmann commented on June 8th 19 at 17:35
a telepath?

no one bothers to just ask - they have a programmer on 1C or not. - efrain.Rolfso commented on June 8th 19 at 17:38
No , called - as the previous specials left so month vacancy hanging, and the city 500 thousand with NAT.the specifics are hard to find. - delores_Eichmann commented on June 8th 19 at 17:41
not the fact that it's about the money.
if it was extremely necessary - would have found.
so it's not urgent. so looking for a better man out the options, I hope. - efrain.Rolfso commented on June 8th 19 at 17:44
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This is a typical situation for small towns


IMHO long gone.

Just like the companies faced.

If in the beginning of the century was still holding its administrator-programmer, etc.
by 2006, moved EN masse to incoming professionals. - efrain.Rolfso commented on June 8th 19 at 17:47
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Just like myself read, they believe that if a person is not there, it doesn't work, and if there is then have to perform a bunch of duties in addition to the core, sometimes at the expense of them.
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Somewhere I've read the discussion that outsourcing is always more expensive no matter what. - delores_Eichmann commented on June 8th 19 at 17:50
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Outsourcing is always more expensive when converted to hours.

But the trick is that outsourcing does not need 8 hours a day 5-6 days a week.

If the amount of work the outsourcer become large - it is more profitable to go the usual objective.

Plus there's another important point: a few hours a week you can hire a high-spec, a few hours a week - the other, easier. And permanent hire typically easier qualification. - efrain.Rolfso commented on June 8th 19 at 17:53
June 8th 19 at 17:19
Solution
Judging by the job description requires it anikeychik.
Have to be able to work as a loader, a teacher, a fitter, a sysadmin, a telephone operator, and specialist in repairing stoves.
Although very deep knowledge and skills are required.

At this level the administration 1C - a simple matter.
In General, the administration 1s not an easy matter - at least you have excellent knowledge of MSSQL, PostgreSQL, and the details of the server 1C.
About ancasta in point: we have due to the specifics like "typographical" when they even slightly work and realize the truth from this RFP is not increased. - Modesto28 commented on June 8th 19 at 17:22
June 8th 19 at 17:21
The administrator is usually responsible for backups, etc., direct relationship to 1C, it has not.

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