How to report tax sites a La seosprint, socpublic, advego?

Ie I have a kind of will also be a small service where I offer different services, but most of them delegate to third parties, keeping a percentage. As to lead all in white? Now actively exaggerate a theme of self-employed, but I did not understand, as it takes into account costs? How do I pay a percentage of turnover, and only from percent? I received $ 1000, how to specify that the income from the thousands I have $ 100?
Well, in General I wonder how you work with tax services such as exchange microblog?

p.s.: about self-employed it is not true, it turned out they generally can not in any way reduce the income. About services Microlog still relevant. How they declare their income? It is unlikely that all these services are in the shade because he is cash turnover is decent, and the account would have already bloknuli for illegal business activities.
April 3rd 20 at 17:43
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April 3rd 20 at 17:45
Solution
take accounts with them and will continue the theme
An entity applies the simplified taxation system and is not recognized
taxpayer of value added tax, in accordance with paragraph 2 of article 346.11 GL.26.2 OF THE TAX CODE
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well, without VAT, STS, most likely - keanu_Corw commented on April 3rd 20 at 17:51
@keanu_Corw, I just got it damn it)) I understand that they just charge higher fees, which will cover their taxes and stay in the pocket? Ie not minus income additional contracts to order services from the real performers, and fully include all the proceeds in your income, and pay tax (6%), right?

at the same Kwork Commission from 20% to 7.5%. Turns out... went 10650р. If you take the minimum fee of 7.5%, it turns out that the income from this transaction have Korka (10650*0,075) = 798.75 rubles. Tax on this transaction (10650*0,06) = 639 rubles. Net income Korka from the transaction (798.75-639) = 159,75 rubles. Right? - lisa.Cole11 commented on April 3rd 20 at 17:54
@karson, Jaroslav thank you for the scan of the Doc. - lisa.Cole11 commented on April 3rd 20 at 17:57
@lisa.Cole11, well, it is only they know, but the USN is much simpler than the overall system, mainly because to prove the cost of the overall system is more complex, so Yes, most likely, pay a simplified tax system with turnover - keanu_Corw commented on April 3rd 20 at 18:00
April 3rd 20 at 17:47
Solution
The author, all of thee services are outside the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation. This is the answer to your question. Let's take for example Advego. If you proleteli to the bottom of their website, and you will find two buttons Webmoney. Click on any and see that the service belongs to the WMID 378559979197, which was some kind of UPFRONT SALES L. P. in Soeginina Kingdom.

What's the point? British tax is not an interesting gradjane NOT the European Union who permanently reside abroad. In my experience I can say that they Russians with their cents there do not care. The guys have their problems there zvataet.

Now, you might ask, but how do you guys primout payments from Russian? So simple. In the Russian Federation shall be the branch that enters into agreements with payment systems. Branch no payments, except the costs of your own office produces. Payment to the executors of the website makes a British company, through any WebMonay or Payoneer

I hope that the further searches you Postnet. :-)
I hope that the further searches you Postnet. :-)

Yes, clear, thank you. Creation is prohibited by the legislation of the Russian ones))) - lisa.Cole11 commented on April 3rd 20 at 17:50
if Cho, the payment order is under my response a bit ruining this beautiful but unviable scheme

and when you learn over VAT on Russian clients - all shaken

and Yes - where possible, necessary payments by cash, by RF cash register - keanu_Corw commented on April 3rd 20 at 17:53
April 3rd 20 at 17:49
Can be view in the direction of "agent". In NC focuses more on the concept of "paying agent", but should dig into the side of his range, where the contractor And through an agent pays to counterparty B through the agent, subtracting their Commission. In this case, the revenue agent is the same Commission, and not the entire turnover.
Yes, thank you, maybe this is the direction where you want to dig... but here's how to dig and what hell understand. Googled like an article on the subject, but nichrome not understand a pancake. I hope someone got on with the toaster, who knows all the kitchen of microbore from the inside, Yes tell. - lisa.Cole11 commented on April 3rd 20 at 17:52
@lisa.Cole11, well, the right digging is NK and maybe 54ФЗ as the starting basis for the excavation of the "varieties" of agents.

And need to dig deep and hire a permanent associate, who after a year at the time statements and any encroachments on the part of sneaks in additional sales taxes - will be able to defend what he had initially proposed. The argument in the form of a reference to the toaster here is a little help, and the difference in taxes will be the couple of orders of magnitude. - eileen_Hansen commented on April 3rd 20 at 17:55
April 3rd 20 at 17:51
I think working at your own risk.

About how - you can try to write to the tax and to clarify about working with Rabocheye. Me in my tax wrote that it is possible, but the quote cited reason of "his name and at the expense of the Principal", although Robotaki work "on behalf of and at the expense of the Principal(i.e. client)." If the tax confirms that Rabocheye you can work with that. And I did not continue to communicate with the tax, as all uncertainly explained, and just opened his SP and bought the online checkout.
to take grandmother it is necessary for ROS details

the sucker may jump if the United States to stir up - keanu_Corw commented on April 3rd 20 at 17:54
Do something maybe in the US but somehow chased through the Russian wallets in POISON, KIWI, WEBMONEY decent amount. According to their own statements on the main page - 7m.dollars. No reports in Russia, and against nobody? - lisa.Cole11 commented on April 3rd 20 at 17:57
@lisa.Cole11, according to Huis, owner of Kiev. And contacts listed company in the United States. Most likely so. The report lie on the conscience of those whom they pay money. - Rogelio.Bos commented on April 3rd 20 at 18:00
@Rogelio.Bos, well, the hell with him with this seasprite. Take Advego. they have jobs there in Moscow. And puzzles they have practically all the same as in seasprite, penny, to join the group, go to the website... - lisa.Cole11 commented on April 3rd 20 at 18:03
April 3rd 20 at 17:53
Major company a La seosprint, socpublic, advego not registered in Russia, if that.
April 3rd 20 at 17:55
The decision of such question, in the borders of the Russian Federation, considered here, and the company do not have to register the payment gateway with mass payments for individuals?
Have considered the possibility that legal schemes of work. And about such payment aggregators I'm aware of. Today they are, tomorrow they are not, as all of your current assets. Open/close (or just change the domain) with the frequency of sites online casinos for extremists in General)) But I think that small and medium-sized (and maybe large?) boxes exactly like grey aggregators and work at your own risk, of course. - lisa.Cole11 commented on April 3rd 20 at 17:58
@lisa.Cole11, see forums, reviews networks and information in General on companies, aggregators, there is a very long-running and large, no dullness, and the more the urge to close them. For example this Kiwi, Yandex Money, Pain of Payout, ChronoPay, Coin, ROBOKASSA, Interkassa and others. - tia.White commented on April 3rd 20 at 18:01
Kiwi and Yandex.money is a payment system, not aggregators. And for every sneeze that your purse can bloknot illegal business activity (law on NAT. the payment system works since 2012). Or you mean Google checkout, and kiwi-register? How you with them will work without registration? At least, will be registered as self-employed. Max - SP, Yul. Then you really begin to list aggregators... only went to the first (Pain of Payout), and do not quite understand how you determine their "size" and "neseret"? I eg. found no physical address, no phone or even email. Contact is possible only by Telegram (but since RKN them blocknum, it didn't work). Seriously, no gray?)) Well, Yes, and opinions, of course, also a couple I found:

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5dfb6c69ca6d9501678007.jpeg - lisa.Cole11 commented on April 3rd 20 at 18:04
@lisa.Cole11, You are probably very far from reality payment systems.

First, QIWI and Yandex for the user's aggregators as they allow you to take payments in different ways, and to pay the same.

Second, if You don't know how to register in the payment order of payment not being self-employed without SP and/or without OOO, it is only because of your ignorance of the details and legislation. Fricasse, ANPA, etc., entire the aggregators, which operate as a natural person, taking payments for the wallets of individuals. Just think, aggregator = natural person, respectively of their merchants especially can be anyone.

Thirdly You specified with skrinshoty say only that left them either bots or clients with questionable activity, no normal payment system will not be Bloch if the client is OK, it's reputational risks. Banks exactly the same send requests only when there is suspicion, and block the account, when the client failed to provide a clear confirmation of the origin of funds and/or economic feasibility of operations, in most cases, he has fraudulent transactions, and so it will check for long and zablocie can and no matter what anybody suffer, learn 115фз in Russia and similar stories in other countries.

Fourth, LV never blocked telegram, this apps from the first day available in all app stores, if one were to lock the app, it is first removed from stores, as it did with LinkedIn and others. Blocked ipadress, and this is done for other purposes.

Well, fifth, since You mentioned Pain on their website I personally saw the phone, chat, window, feedback and data about the company, what few, even the tool is in the WebMoney, and forums are still separate contacts provided. If it is really interested, you can still make some screenshots of where it is, just saw.

Be, please, more careful, and especially study the materiel before in a similar debate to join. Because sometimes I read about people not to know something, but to convince them of something, what no personal expertise, so-so story. - tia.White commented on April 3rd 20 at 18:07
By the way, go to the next branch What are the alternatives ePayments? Who than uses? there the man is absolutely a normal business, judging by the description, but it was blocked by many known and largest payment service. And similar stories on the web you can find the sea, about various bills they submit to the regulators, and therefore fulfill the requirements? and the fact that You could not find on the website some information on the network and found some strange opinion it does not figure, especially for those who work more than 5 or even 10 years in payments. - tia.White commented on April 3rd 20 at 18:10
@tia.White, Thanks for the detailed answer. I'll try to briefly in order...

Second, if You don't know how to register in the payment order of payment not being self-employed without SP and/or without OOO, it is only because of your ignorance of the details and legislation.

Yes, no problem to take to register and make payments. Problem to work without fear that tomorrow purse slocat. It's not some of my fantasies.

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Just think, aggregator = natural person

Ponder - now I'm doubly scared to trust such aggregators their money. First, what happens to my money if that individual will fall ill tomorrow and togos...? Secondly, it turns out that these aggregators, according to Russian law, they themselves are not okay with the law? Because individuals may not engage in entrepreneurial activity.

no normal payment system will not be Bloch if the client is OK

It's good that you said, about everything is OK. After all, we are talking about using the aggregator in the framework of business activities... in Russia... as a person. That is not "all OK"

Fourth, LV never blocked telegram, this apps from the first day available in all app stores, if one were to lock the app, it is first removed from stores, as it did with LinkedIn and others. Blocked ipadress, and this is done for other purposes.

Don't quite understand what you're writing it all. The company is focused for the most part as I understand the Russian market. From my phone this app does not work. ip, not the ip, what do I care... I blew it to hell right after it has ceased to deliver the message in the borders of my country. Why this method of communication spread as the main one for Russian users?

Well, fifth, since You mentioned Pain on their website I personally saw the phone, chat, window, feedback and data about the company, what few, even the tool is in the WebMoney, and forums are still separate contacts provided. If it is really interested, you can still make some screenshots of where it is, just saw.


I don't know where you found the phone.
So I went to the contacts Yandex.money, and see the phone:
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Here I go into feedback ROBOKASSA, and also see the address and phone number:
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Here I go into contacts kiwi:
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And now I go to the feedback payin-payout:
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Hmm... telegram? seriously?) Go to the website telegram... oops...
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Next (center) is some unknown messenger, which I definitely not and I even haven't heard of it. And right, thank God, there is something familiar and hard - working whatsapp.. but here's the thing, the link is not clickable)) "Yeah... Muddy dudes" - I thought. At this stage, 99% of users just pass by this aggregator, making it appropriate conclusions about the trail. character:
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But I am persistent. Hard to find on the website another interesting link... Contacts. I thought, finally, there is find a phone...
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But no... it isn't here. There is some address in Kazakhstan. On the contact page. I wonder how this address to contact? Well, I think... maybe in doublegis all contacts for this company is. Go to doublegis, but he did not find in this house such an organization, there is only a grocery store, some clinic and the notary office. All clear.. go on. It turns out that there is a group in the VC, and lo and behold! the phone is listed there)) But judging by the feedback in the same group, on the phone to talk to anyone really fails. And they say that there Manager ava bear removes all of the telegram. message))
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Be, please, more careful, and especially study the materiel before in a similar debate to join. Because sometimes I read about people not to know something, but to convince them of something, which is personal examination

What is "personal expertise"? I now every aggregator to play with the enterprise you need before you dare to Express your mind about him? I spent the whole investigation to a telephone and made the aggregator certain conclusions, which wished to share with the world. What's wrong?

and the fact that You could not find on the website some information on the network and found some strange opinion it does not figure

Interestingly, while that figure for you? That opened some kind of investment Fund (100percentPerDay.com). No one knows how to contact him, no contact information. And reviews some strange go on the Internet, they say no refunds. But it's not an indicator of when the promise such interest, right? :) - lisa.Cole11 commented on April 3rd 20 at 18:13
@tia.White, And Yes, in no way wanted to offend you or to nail the final nail in the coffin of your project (hardly anyone besides me and you still read these comments). On the contrary, I wish you all the best and prosperity to your business, perhaps even ever would be your customer (honestly, I like your website). Just showed how much yet you cut yourself off from customers and what is expressed. At least, even here on the toaster (now qna), you can start the dialogue with what are the owner/representative payin-payout. The reasons for the distancing can be different: modesty, financial constraints (hence the lack of managers, phones), inability to provide guarantees of safety of money resources on accounts of users. 1st and 2nd not too scary and of course eventually resolved, but the likelihood of the latter option scares away most of the potential customers and causes to pass by your aggregator. - lisa.Cole11 commented on April 3rd 20 at 18:16
@lisa.Cole11, You are not too lazy for this nonsense?) Forced to respond to stupidity but okay, Your analytical skills let You down again, start from the end.

1. I am not the representative and not the owner of any of the discussed service, I am a former employee of the Bank, if it matters. But that does not stop me to know more details about the different payment their terms and some information about their customers. And not only that, but the legislation of the Russian Federation on the topic of electronic payments, 54фз and on, but I deeply no matter who goes past that, it's every man decides

2. Concerning entrepreneurial activities and individuals read the law on self-employed, explore a topic 54фз, because you can sell goods and not to beat checks, and even as a citizen of the Russian Federation, and even selling goods in the Russian market, it is indeed possible, what is not breaking the law, learn for example what is dropshiping for example, how it legally works and what is possible in the same vein else to do, who are 2chekout, Tmall and other history, although it is only a small part of the total, but the new exactly

3. What You have is not working telegram is a question for Your provider, why is it so crookedly works

4. With respect to the lock and financial losses when you are a business, open accounts in different banks, the turnover exceeds 1 million per month, then learn how banks send the requests and block accounts of legal entities, the fact that You are worried about the payment, which many take in dealing with banks, even flowers

5. And Your favorite, the examination and analysis of the sites, then I write more, You're the expert, as it turned out and didn't want to hurt me))

Information is not always located where You think you need to look for her. Personal expertise is the experience that allows you to work with data from different sources under different sauce and to give the product. Here's the phone with the already known site and surprisingly, it is possible to call. feb5439dca.png

There are some wonderful archival service, where you can open any domain of interest and see what happened to him in the passed, and lo and behold, there it is possible to specify a known website and see the phone numbers and even e-mail for communications that once were located there, but their efficiency can not answer, once removed, so could only remove the number +7 is the same as now.47bc9ac802.png

But the fact that they now have other contacts are listed, and the country is not Russian so they know how to work not only on the territory of the Russian Federation, otherwise the site wasn't in English and Russian languages.

Besides, You have the screenshot of the website turnover.ru, where it is about rates. Looks like You even with the rates for processing are not known as the man for whom the 3% is a lot, there are also higher, if that. Well, now I saw all the other information at rates at least acquainted or something.

And, on top of that, since You like to browse the sites and click all sorts of links on them, I recommend to use service similarweb, there is also a lot of interesting things to see about the different sites and the payment in particular.

I hope that this dialogue will be over because then we will begin to have an entirely different language to speak, because the experience we had with You all in different planes, and we do different activities? it is a pity it does not prevent You from imposing your opinion without checking the facts. - tia.White commented on April 3rd 20 at 18:19
@tia.White, I don't know what you are the website) That you probably have the version with localhost, you forgot to upload to the server))) But that you show to all users:
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What You have is not working telegram is a question for Your provider, why is it so crookedly works

Now begin to imagine how you deal with customers, and which arguments to the question about the impossibility to contact you. You know, perhaps, I too will be one of those who avoids such aggregators for 10km.

I am not the representative and not the owner of any of the discussed service

No, seriously, you don't even bothered to play these spy games? What is this kindergarten? Their customers is also keep all for idiots?
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I hope that this dialogue will be over

Yes of course break it up, enough to shame. Have trapped themselves with their absurd remarks in a swamp, from which now can't get out. Your service was for all nonakam, but there was at least hope for an adequate owner. And now with the owner of all clear. You're lying just so, nothing to do. Lie even where this is not required. What about if the question will be about the money??? Who then will you cooperate??? A gesture of some sort. Leaked all its reputation, which was not so hot, in the toilet. - lisa.Cole11 commented on April 3rd 20 at 18:22
@lisa.Cole11, I hope You know how sites the language switches and it is a shame to me already. Switch, you will see a room. What is the Agency fee, hope You are also familiar, because telegram accounts are several, and there You could tell what was happening, but You first need the provider to change to telegram earned)) Well to me You just do not need to cooperate, my services on the other, a payment system can choose any, but with the legislation to see, I recommend to start.

By the way, very funny that You thought the owner of the service sit on the forums and other sites and writes comments) - tia.White commented on April 3rd 20 at 18:25
You know how sites language switches

To switch the language? Why? What are you talking about? Why would I want to switch the language to find the phone number?

it is a shame to me

Imagine... but you yourself are buried.

What is the Agency fee, hope You too

That's only in your group Vkontakte say what it is you call everybody with a telegram, and shall be submitted by the Manager. In General, another stupid and immersion more feet into the ground. Still not tired themselves to torture?

By the way, very funny that You thought the owner of the service sit on the forums and other sites and writes comments)

Yeah, yeah, because the office is such a bonus, as much as a straight horror.... The Director probably in ballrooom large office bolshakovo big business center on Madison Avenue... the Board of Directors of the 50 millionaires, no less. And the President of the Corporation pain moves exclusively on a gold helicopter. BP smokes on the sidelines.

Go ahead and continue to live in your fantasy world, but without me. - lisa.Cole11 commented on April 3rd 20 at 18:28
@lisa.Cole11I?! Calling?! O. o You can not rest, looking already close Gestalt contact yourself with them and find out who and where) to Switch to find the information you need, well I found, and find on other sites what I need. Don't know what you want to prove, and to whom. Screens where some info is attached how to check the sites on the subject of the story indicated where to track the relationship and to watch the General data, too. Payment of taxes better take care of, and that is the theme of this is Your business, but how to do not know. Here and examine just how the bills work, who and on what flies. - tia.White commented on April 3rd 20 at 18:31
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