Why pay SN for the last month in the middle of this month?

What are the accounting frauds carried out by companies that pay employees the RFP last month, half the current?

I feel that there is something wrong, and asked the employer he said "well now".

Explain to me please, and why so?
June 10th 19 at 15:16
7 answers
June 10th 19 at 15:18
Solution
Why pay SN for the last month in the middle of this month?
How convenient and pay.
There are certain standards in TC, the terms of payment spelled out in the employment contract.

When you have worked a month, you can accrue salary and pay. The calculation process is often not quick.
Therefore, not everyone can pay salaries in the first of the month, usually towards the middle.

It is unclear, what is fraud?
I'm a little weak in accounting, in my understanding, is for reporting, delaying the report to the tax, something like that. - jaycee commented on June 10th 19 at 15:21
If the volume of SN is large, we can put the money at interest - marilyne_Roh commented on June 10th 19 at 15:24
No.
Well, imagine - working people, it is necessary to calculate the salary.
This requires information - how many days he went to work.
Maybe he's a week left in General.
If not out - for whatever reason - time off, absenteeism, sick leave, etc.

To obtain this information before the end of the month need a good psychic on the payroll, which will be to predict all that looking into the crystal ball.

Since good psychics now figs you will find, usually pay a salary after the end of the month.
And payroll takes time.
If you there are two people on the salary and everything is just - well, I calculate a salary on a piece of paper, 30min.

If you have there 300человек, and someone on the salary, someone on piece work, have someone shift or shifts, plus processing, outputs in weekends and holidays - there is only the process of charging at 1C may take a day, press a button and the day forward.
The mind of course a server must quicker and smarter - but it is what it is.

In General to calculate a salary for a few days - not always possible, and often very difficult.
But for two weeks in the normal approach, all you can manage to do without rush, of sitting accountants salary nights at work.

Why would anyone want to slow down the process of report to the tax? What's the point?
On the contrary all quickly pass, and sleep. - earl.Weissnat commented on June 10th 19 at 15:27
Well money in the Bank at interest lay not in the day - if so do you twist the salary for six months.
And this is usually possible only in the government - when the budget allocated money, and they instead of salary which put them at interest in the Bank for six months.

In a commercial organization is practically nonexistent - if there is money to pay them pay, if not, then not.
What for to the Bank then? It's their money, not public. - earl.Weissnat commented on June 10th 19 at 15:30
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put not for a day
there is even a contribution overnight

twist the salary for six months
not everyone was lucky with the employees

What for to the Bank then? It's your money
method for the lazy - marilyne_Roh commented on June 10th 19 at 15:33
June 10th 19 at 15:20
Solution
Well frankly it is not legal.
In TC there is the concept of advance and SN. Payments must be done every 2 weeks.
Advance for the current month in the middle of the month, and SN at the beginning of the next.

If your RFP is black, therefore, the company keeps you on the hook for 2 weeks.
Well, that you kind of worked - I got, and have to wait 1 month to get the money.
Why is not legal? Which law is violated.
According to TK it is allowed to pay wages in the middle of next month.
About the advance in question seems out of the question. - jaycee commented on June 10th 19 at 15:23
OK. Persuaded.
BUT:
www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_34683/a0a8...

> Wages shall be paid not less frequently than every two weeks. - marilyne_Roh commented on June 10th 19 at 15:26
so it is not written what a fortnight - earl.Weissnat commented on June 10th 19 at 15:29
So, the interval between salary and an advance to survive, otherwise you can descend into sickly fine.

But the advance is a fixed amount, it is not necessary to be considered, paid and all.
And salaries should be calculated, and to calculate its possible only after the end of the month.

So we paid an advance, a month ran out, counted and accrued wages, taken away from her already paid the down payment and received the payment amount, exactly to the middle of next month.

Sometimes sooner, but if later - can be a problem. - earl.Weissnat commented on June 10th 19 at 15:32
June 10th 19 at 15:22
Solution
enough described

add to that audit, current / variable costs and the word "quarterly report" - and solitaire will converge
June 10th 19 at 15:24
Solution
No, it makes sense to slow down the reports to the tax no pay tax anyway after the fact.
It just so happened historically.
In fact, in the middle of this month on legislation you have a right to receive advance payment for the current month.
June 10th 19 at 15:26
Solution
Come to the conclusion that this is a discretionary decision of the chief and accountant. There was something in the firm that clearly paid wages in the end of this month. Under socialism there were no computers, and the teams were gigantic, so there was a delay for 5 days. Now the computer (at least for a million people) will do the calculation in seconds.
By the way, it would be fair to the RFP issued already in the middle of this month. Then the first half of the month, the firm needs the employee and the second employee of the firm, i.e., it is the most fair system of payment. Some, however, the RFP issued twice a month, but I try to do long delays.
Now the computer (at least for a million people) will do the calculation in seconds.
You where such computers have seen?
The estimated payroll of 500 employees is often a dozen hours, and this is incorrectly stated something and have to run.

By the way, it would be fair to the RFP issued already in the middle of this month.
What kind of justice?
The work is not done and the money already paid?
In General, work not of justice, but by agreement. - jaycee commented on June 10th 19 at 15:29
, 1) read about big data, about algorithms, about parallel computation in the processors. If you live in the last century, it is not my fault.
What dozens of hours? People agree, you can spend so much, but not a computer (normal) program.
The computer was not to blame, that person provides incorrect data. I repeat: most of the programs that I came across (not for the calculation of ZP, but simply on the calculation of the data) to do the processing in a split second.

2) Try to think again. The first 15 days an employee works, but the firm was not paying him. Ie 15 days the firm was debtor. Then the employee receives the RFP. Now he's a debtor. But after 15 days he will work a month and will cease to be a debtor. Isn't it true when the firm and the employee in the same conditions?
And take an example from real life, when 20-25 numbers give an advance. Is this correct? The firm paid for only 15 days, i.e. 20-25 number as she was the debtor, and left. So it should have been called, not in advance, and the return of the debt.
Just the capitalists muddied brain workers who take black for white. - marilyne_Roh commented on June 10th 19 at 15:32
, 1)what does big data processing and algorithms? What parallel computations on the processors? We like talking about payroll.

The salary is considered most often in our country in the program 1C Enterprise ZEKE, or SPP of different versions.
Payroll for a large number of employees takes a very large amount of time, often tens of hours after pressing the button calculate to obtain the result.
I've never seen programs for payroll calculation using parallel computation on the processors. If you are seen, and know how to do payroll - share specific solutions.
You do at least times the salary considered for a large number of employees?

2)Think again.
The employee got a job. Terms of payment - once a month.
Worked for 15 days - not completed
Worked for a month - work completed - the employer must pay for the work done.

Isn't it true when the firm and the employee in the same conditions?
No such thing as justice does not exist.
Is it fair that wolves eat sheep? Is it right that the sheep devour grass?

Don't know who's there and what you fouled.
There is such a thing as a contract. As agreed and working.
If agreed that the employer pays a salary for two years prior to the start of work - accounts payable employer wage occurs in the two years before you start working.
If you have agreed that the employer shall pay wages within three years after the completion of the debt occur in three years. - earl.Weissnat commented on June 10th 19 at 15:35
1) "after pressing the button calculate to get the result."
Haven't seen those programs, who spend hours.
We used database for real-time systems. Query time is calculated by milliseconds.

2) Maybe for you justice doesn't exist. But since ancient times is the principle - how you feel about me, and I to you.
In the contract you can write 2x2=5, but that doesn't change the rules of mathematics. - earl.Weissnat commented on June 10th 19 at 15:38
June 10th 19 at 15:28
Solution
Probably just shitty work as an accountant (or leadership if it is engaged in the calculation). There is still the possibility that the company has ongoing expenses in the beginning of the month that they block the sum from n\s employees.
June 10th 19 at 15:30
Solution
Faced with this, when the employer's clients delayed payments.
And above all have the options described.

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